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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Hi everyone I am new to this forum and I need help so I am thanking everone in advance.We'll my bonneville (1998 3.8lit.)cranks but won't start and also my power windows and door locks don't work either it all happen at the same time!Here are things that I checked already. 1. check for sparks on coils and there are sparks on all.2.replaced relay that is located on passerger side kick panel for the fuel pump and power door locked,and windows.3.check for security light when turn ign. switch on and security light turns on and off withing 5 sec.4. checked all plugs which I already replace, wires and plugs a week ago with new coil packs too,and found plugs bone dry so there is no fuel so it not necessary fuel pump cause the power and door lock doesn't work either and I already replaced the relay that works all together (fuel pump,power windors and door locks)my guess is the crank sensor but iam not sure iam 50% sure it the problem but don't want to go to all trouble of replace it and then car still wont start please can sombody help me out before I replace crank sensor!
thanks p.* i forgot to mention i check all fuses and they are ok

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Hi newb.. welcome..

Mechanical problems are best in the correct section.. but being in a bind..

Test fuel pump:
Turn key on, do you hear a noise from the fuel pump priming for about 203 seconds?

Test for injectors:
Take a 194 bulb (turn signal/side marker) and pull the tabs down so they stick out. Stuff that into an injector plug and have someone crank, you should see light. If not.. most likely the fuel injector fuse (passenger kickpanel) is bad.

Start there.. BTW, If you have spark, then your crank sensor is working.
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welcome to the forum!! we'll get ya fixed up in no time!
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Welcome to the forum. Let us know what you find out
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BillBoost37
Hi newb.. welcome..

Mechanical problems are best in the correct section.. but being in a bind..

Test fuel pump:
Turn key on, do you hear a noise from the fuel pump priming for about 203 seconds?

Test for injectors:
Take a 194 bulb (turn signal/side marker) and pull the tabs down so they stick out. Stuff that into an injector plug and have someone crank, you should see light. If not.. most likely the fuel injector fuse (passenger kickpanel) is bad.

Start there.. BTW, If you have spark, then your crank sensor is working.
thank you...but remember my power window and door lock dont work either and the relay and all fuses are good
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Check your ground bus.

Here is the info on it...
https://www.gmforum.com/showthread.php?t=278980

Your power windows/locks and fuel pump are tied into the same grounding point. No ground, no workie.
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Oh.. I remember I also know that in your spot, I'd be happy if the car worked, happier when the locks and windows work. but they aren't really needed to get from point A to B.

Run the tests I suggested and we'll know a lot more about what'* going on. Mike went and headed straight to the problem...lol Darn you Mike, I was saving that for tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Mike1995;1430452]Check your ground bus.

Here is the info on it...
https://www.gmforum.com/showthread.php?t=278980

Your power windows/locks and fuel pump are tied into the same grounding point. No ground, no workie.



THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT GIVE ME ADVICE AND ESPECIALLY TO MIKE HE PIN POINT THE PROBLEM YES THE GROUND BUS WAS CORRIDED AND I CLEAN IT AND BANG ENGINE START RIGHT UP!!!!!rkr LOL!!!!
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Damn I'm good.
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Originally Posted by Mike1995
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There ya go Mike
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