1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 01-18-2010, 07:35 PM
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Lemon Law only covers the sale of new vehicles in this state.

Fairly certain the bill of sale said the vehicle was sold as is, I handed the paperwork off to my mother so she could drive it back while I went to pick up another vehicle I was buying, but the problem is that I didnt notice at the time, but he didnt hand me a copy of the bill of sale. When I got home and got the car back from my mom, she only had the title.... so that sucks. I have the title, but I transferred the title immediately into my name, so that was silly of me.

As it turns out I bought it on the 30th, not the 31st. I transfered the title on the 31st. But, even when a vehicle is sold as is, there is generally what is called a warranty of merchantability or if the dealer is representing that a vehicle is in good mechanical condition then that means there is a warranty of fitness for a particular purpose. Since the car was not free from defects when I bought it, I am hoping a court would see that as a breach on his side. Plus I am hoping a judge will side with me and view his behavior as unfair and deceptive.

I want to keep the car, I like it, it is super roomy, comfortable, and scoots along with enough power I dont feel dumb in the drivers seat. Plus I am really a fan of 3800s, and love the look of this SSE.

Anyways, I suppose I will call the states attorney, and check with the consumer protection bureau. I am reporting them to the Better Business Bureau.

My main issue at this point is having paid for the car to be fixed, and they did not complete the repairs they were commissioned to do. Back when I had my shop, if I swapped an engine, I wasnt going to send it out the door leaking fluids, and I didnt charge people for labor I didnt actually do. This is why I am considering stopping payment on the check I wrote for the engine swap.

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I would stop the check. Let him confront you about the payment, make your claim about the shoddy repairs, and give him the option of taking you to court over it. Being a small business owner such as him, he may not have the funds or time to bother with doing that. In turn he may reduce the amount owed or fix it again at another shop at his expense. IMO anyway.
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Its very shady at the very least what they did to you.

Either way, as I said we want you here...so if your needing anything to get your Bonneville running tip top. Ask and we will help you the best we can.

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park it by his shop with a sign warning others of his business practices. once he sees you mean business maybe he will hold up fixing car so you can at least get some use out of it dh2
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Originally Posted by Mike1995
I would stop the check. Let him confront you about the payment, make your claim about the shoddy repairs, and give him the option of taking you to court over it. Being a small business owner such as him, he may not have the funds or time to bother with doing that. In turn he may reduce the amount owed or fix it again at another shop at his expense. IMO anyway.
Yeah, that is how I am leaning.


Anyways, thanks for the support guys, I'll just try and keep you all posted. If anyone has a flat rate book, I am still curious. Thanks a bunch. I have a good MAF, MAP and a set of injectors I can throw on it. Gaskets and plugs are cheap, so no worries there. Just have to wait till the weather gets nice again.

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park it by his shop with a sign warning others of his business practices. once he sees you mean business maybe he will hold up fixing car so you can at least get some use out of it dh2
Unfortunately, my wife'* old car is gone, not running, and we needed a bigger car. Plus I am poor right now because I have 3 kids, and went back to school last year after working in the real world for the last 12 years.

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Yeah, I have an account there. Thanks for looking out.
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no problem...I'm still digging for the rate times...
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Don't worry about it. I can call the GM dealer in the morning. Probably should have thought of that in the first place.
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http://www.laborguide.net/

requires a 45 day trial period...but you will get the info your looking for.....
I'll call my friend in the morning who has all-data at his shop.


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