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Old 10-08-2002, 01:16 PM
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Sup guys, I've been wanting to put a cold air intake on my ride, but I'm not sure what I should do. Should I get rid of the box entirely and get a cone filter? If so, where do I get the cone filter? I've never seen one for a bonneville before. Is there a huge difference between the K&N and the cone?
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Hold on......there'* 2 CAI'* in development. Try www.angryducktofuracing.com
or just wait for him (99bonnevilleSE) or www.domesticperformance.com (Speedguy) to get there offerings posted. 99'* is supposed to be priced and posted TODAY!
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What kind of performance difference did you see when you put your K&N in? Also, I've noticed my car runs @ about 215 degrees. Give or take. I was told I should flush my radiator, but there'* no plug at the bottom to drain it. Should I just pull one of the lower hoses and hook my hose or power washer to the top? Or go get it prof. done? One more question that I've asked everyone but the dealership(I hate gettin ripped off) but no one seems to know. I've had the car about a year and a half, and I've never changed the supercharger oil. The car was taken well care of, but I dunno when the last time it was changed, and no one seems to know how to drain it. They all tell me to go to the dealer. Nutz to that, I'm not gonna pay em 90 bux to change my supercharger oil. Any suggestions?
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Whew......ok, let'* work on your questions! First, I did see a noticeable difference when I put the K&N in. I also modified my airbox soon thereafter, and saw even MORE of a change. You can see what it looks like here: http://home.attbi.com/~bill.wren/ Just click on the Bonnie link at the bottom. You gotta let that sucker breathe. The K&N alone won't do it. A CAI will do best, but an unprotected cone will draw hot air, which you DON'T want. You need some kind of heat shield. In the meantime, while waiting for a CAI, I have what you see. It works, and draws cold air.

For the engine coolant temp, we're all doing the same thing. 180° Thermostat, (you have to get the gasket from the dealer, the seal from the auto parts store where you get the stat), and also ADD another tranny cooler. Mine ran 220° and now runs under 200° in city driving.....summertime! Things are cooling down in the windy city right now, so I'd hold off until spring on this mod.

For the SC oil change, follow this link: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...percharger+oil to review the whole thread, or just go to your pontiac dealer, buy 2 bottles of oil (you'll probably want to flush it first with one bottle) and follow my procedure...cut and pasted from that thread:
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"Gotcha. I changed mine for the first time right after I got the car at 70k miles.

Bubba, do exactly what the Rat said to get the oil There are 2 sources on the net for it, but by the time you pay shipping, it ain't worth it. They come in little bottles. About 10 bucks for 8 ounces, I think. Buy 2 or 3 bottles. No ****. You'll wanna flush it.

This procedure is for Series I (92-95), I don't know how much different the Eaton M90 is, so this is for the M62 (what year is your Bon?)

Pull the smaller of the two covers off the blower, on the pulley end of the supercharger. You'll see a small plug (1/4" NPT if you know your plumbing sizes) out of the nose cone assembly. You don't want it hot, but make sure it'* warm.
Put a Jack under the Front A-arm or sub-frame on the driver'* side and raise it. This will force the oil towards the pulley end of the nose cone and make it easier to suck out.

Get a large syringe from your local drug dealer or farm/feed supply, and some 1/4" tubing from the auto parts store. A foot will do. Press the tubing onto the end of the syringe, and use that to suction it out through the fill hole. Refill it with a clean syringe and tubing, not a funnel, cuz you have to see when the oil reaches the bottom edge of the threads. The last time you fill it, let it off the jack (level car) before filling it.

Good luck! You just bought some peace of mind."
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Hope all this helps! Good LUCK!
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Thank you my friend, you've been a huge help
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Keep us posted on your progress. If you have any tips/tricks or refinements, we can re-write the book for the other guys that come along!
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Hold up a second, am I hearing this right?
There is a true COLD air intake in development? Not just ram air style?
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i`m still in r& d with mine should be done in a week i hope going see a good friend in seattle to see what he thinks :P
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Sorry about not posting the prices today guys. I wa busy helping my friend with his 02 Camaro Z28. I will be posting the prices either on Wednesday or Thursday guarenteed. I am finishing the pages and all the appropriate information. I hope this goes well so that I can continue making more products for the Bonneville'* and other cars.
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