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1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 07-27-2005, 04:12 PM   #11
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Had it towed to my dealer this morning, says it'* the fuel pump. My sender hasn't worked in months so since the tank has to be dropped I can kill 2 birds with 1 stone. If it wasn't so damn hot lately I'd do it myself, oh well it'* only money right.....

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I undestand that.... Pulled my fuel tank yesterday, due to low fuel pressure.... 37-45.... And the pump didn't keep up when you opend up the throttle....LMAO....

I installed a new pump and the fuel pressure is good... 52psi when I turn the ignition on... After having doing this myself, I'd have to say it may be better tp pay someone to do it.... Its not too bad on the H bodies, But its enough to make you say a few unpleasant words...lol

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Old 07-29-2005, 12:28 AM   #12
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were back in action. After a short ride on a flatbed and $600 I have a new fuel pump, fuel filter, and fuel guage sender. The upside is that my car is faster than ever. The difference is amazing!! Proper fuel pressure rocks

Now knowing what baseline 3800 power feels like, I could just imagine how fast the L36 cars are
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were back in action. After a short ride on a flatbed and $600 I have a new fuel pump, fuel filter, and fuel guage sender. The upside is that my car is faster than ever. The difference is amazing!! Proper fuel pressure rocks

Now knowing what baseline 3800 power feels like, I could just imagine how fast the L36 cars are
Yeah I have noticed an all around diffrence on my car as well... The low end is better, and the top end is way more fun...

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djm, did you have the dealer do the install? The dealers here want nearly $1,000 to do it.

The sender went out on mine just over a year ago...gas mileage accuracy is a trip. Wife ran out a couple times. LOL

I also have a stumble at low RPMs that I can't seem to remedy (did all the normal stuff...). Maybe my fuel pressure is low...the fuel pump could be the culprit. At 121K, nothing would surprise me at this point...

Don...what brand pump did you install? The local shop only wants $700 to change the pump in my car, but I'm not sure of the brand.
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djm, did you have the dealer do the install? The dealers here want nearly $1,000 to do it.

The sender went out on mine just over a year ago...gas mileage accuracy is a trip. Wife ran out a couple times. LOL

I also have a stumble at low RPMs that I can't seem to remedy (did all the normal stuff...). Maybe my fuel pressure is low...the fuel pump could be the culprit. At 121K, nothing would surprise me at this point...

Don...what brand pump did you install? The local shop only wants $700 to change the pump in my car, but I'm not sure of the brand.
I installed an AC Delco pump... The pump was $120 if memory serves..

Yeah the shops are a rip off when it comes to that fuel pump... I guess they know the car won't run without it, so they can charge like crazy for it...

I installed mine in far less than 2 hours, I was throwing out some colorful phrases, but I got the pump installed and then managed to squeeze the tank back in... I let it run low before I dropped the tank tho ( Fuel gage still functional )... Once I got it all together, I turned the ignition on and off a few times to get some pressure built back up.... Fired her up and I heard that " Ding Ding Ding " And the little Amber light that says " Check Gages " came on.... I thought wow, the low fuel thingy still works... Drove the car to work this morning, knowing I didn't have much fuel.... I put in $34 worth which amounted to 15.32 gallons.... I still had 2.68 gallons left.... LMAO... Thats running the tank pretty low....

And for $700 I'd be demanding AC Delco

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Thanks for the info. I didn't know that it was only ~2 hour job. I'll have to look at the Chilton'* for more details!
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Thanks for the info. I didn't know that it was only ~2 hour job. I'll have to look at the Chilton'* for more details!
I had the car backed up on ramps<------ Mistake that was.... I also used a floor jack and a board to aid me... I would have been better off if I had set the car on jack stands......

I was not too happy when I was trying to reinstall the tank... LMAO.... I actually dropped the exahust a bit to give me more room to work.... It would have been an extreme help if I had the luxury of a helper....lol ... But I still got it....

went from 42ish psi at idle to 35 with the throttle cranked open, once in a while lower... It was 48 with the ignition turned on, but never that high while the car was running... Lowest I think I saw at one time was 32 psi... I knew that wasn't great when the 91 easly saw 40 psi....

After the pump replacement, ignition on was 52 psi, running was 42-43psi, open the throttle and poof 50psi.... Car drives much much better...

I don't know how long its suppose to take, I have helped a friend do a few fuel pumps.... They can be a pain... But I had an idea of what I was getting into...lol

It took me 2 hours, not sure what would be listed for it tho...

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djm, did you have the dealer do the install? The dealers here want nearly $1,000 to do it.

The sender went out on mine just over a year ago...gas mileage accuracy is a trip. Wife ran out a couple times. LOL

I also have a stumble at low RPMs that I can't seem to remedy (did all the normal stuff...). Maybe my fuel pressure is low...the fuel pump could be the culprit. At 121K, nothing would surprise me at this point...

Don...what brand pump did you install? The local shop only wants $700 to change the pump in my car, but I'm not sure of the brand.
I was prepared to do the work myself but after installing new springs struts and end links the day before my car died I was feeling lazy and decided to have the dealer do the work. And since it was 95 degrees outside and the car was at the alignment shop... dead... I felt it was money worth spending. Labor was $240. The pump, sock, and sender were ordered separatly from Delco so I saved a few bucks at $370.

Did I mention my car hauls *** now? Night and day all through the RPM range...

I hear you on the mileage issue. I was never quite sure when to fill up. After some thinking and record keeping (no errors thank goodness) I managed 415 or so miles before I figured I was running on fumes.
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djm, did you have the dealer do the install? The dealers here want nearly $1,000 to do it.

The sender went out on mine just over a year ago...gas mileage accuracy is a trip. Wife ran out a couple times. LOL

I also have a stumble at low RPMs that I can't seem to remedy (did all the normal stuff...). Maybe my fuel pressure is low...the fuel pump could be the culprit. At 121K, nothing would surprise me at this point...

Don...what brand pump did you install? The local shop only wants $700 to change the pump in my car, but I'm not sure of the brand.
I was prepared to do the work myself but after installing new springs struts and end links the day before my car died I was feeling lazy and decided to have the dealer do the work. And since it was 95 degrees outside and the car was at the alignment shop... dead... I felt it was money worth spending. Labor was $240. The pump, sock, and sender were ordered separatly from Delco so I saved a few bucks at $370.

Did I mention my car hauls A$$ now? Night and day all through the RPM range...
Same here.... I ran my pedal through the floor today, after I refueled.... The red come on faster....

And it was 95 here with a feels like 105 index... I changed clothes 3 times that day

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Dropping the tank to swap a pump probably pays 1.5 at a dealership.
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