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1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 07-26-2003, 02:37 AM   #11
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Does this help any?
Absolutely!

Now the engine never had any knock before it this happened, it was in perfect working condition.

So I guess it was just assembled poorly? That'* a nice feeling...
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20,000km since the rebuild.

I have no idea what a connecting rod is, but I'm sure it connects something! lol

Is there one/cylinder? What do they actually do (connect)?
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I thought that that rod was called a piston rod or something like that.

I had previously thought it was that, but didn't think that a bearing on something so major could make this noise and still let the car run ok.

As for the upper intake, it has already been replaced on this car.
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My guess is that it wasn't too bad yet... There was enough play in the bearing to cause a knock though... But if the bearing wears any more or becomes spun, then there could have been some serious damage... If the bearing spun than the piston would slam into the head and valves, it would also be possible to throw the rod through the block at this point... But The engine must have been rebuilt wrong to have failed that quickly... Good luck, and let us know what they find.
LOL, the bad news there is pretty scary, Good thing I made sure my rents got it in to be fixed ASAP. Even though they said it was probably nothing when they listened to it and told us to come back in like 4 days I knew it wasn't minor.
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Well I think they're going to **** us over...

There was a dent in the oil pan which decreased the flow into the oil intake that sits in the pan. And since the bearing on #6 went bad, #6 being the last bearing to see oil it didn't get enough and went bad. So there I am standing over my beloved 3800 Series 2, upside down gutted, with it'* massive pistons sitting there. By the way, VERY cool to see your engine opened up.

So they're going to screw us for the warranty...

Now to decide if we pay to have it rebuilt (about $2000 CDN) or throw it out... What do you guys think we should do? If we have it rebuilt it will be sold immediately.
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No, it never showed low oil pressure. And no light ever came on. I watch these things, especially when I heard that noise, I double checked all the guages, all normal. And then promptly had the car checked.

The screen was restricted somewhat, but there were still opening of depth at least 3mm on some sides.

On the oil pan where the indent is there'* no scratching of the paint at all. The mark on it looked like it was buffed where the impact was. Very shiny. On the inside of the pan there were markings where the oil dip tube'* face had scarped some of some of the paint off, as if it had been rubbing/vibrating against it for some time.

The oil sump screen/tube are in perfect condition. Like new.
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Would a flow that was decreased enough do starve oil to the #6 connecting rod bearing show a considerable decrease in the oil pressure on the guage?

Yes, you're right, it'* held on with 2 bolts, one of which he stripped the head on infront of me...
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The rod looked just like all the other rods. And the bearing itself appeared all scratched up, and slightly darker than the rest.

The oil guage and temp guage were always normal, I check them at least once or twice no matter how short a distance I am travelling.

Apparently only 6 went bad because it gets oil last therefore there was insuffecient pressure to supply suffecient oil to #6.

Yea, my father is yelling BS too, but what arguement do we possibly have?

They have a dented oil pan, we have no way of proving those guages were normal, we have no way of proving they damaged the oil pan. How can we fight it?
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I'll keep you updated with the outcome.
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Hi, here is what I came up with on www.car-part.com These are all in Ontario. Might be easier to go to www.car-part.com and do a search for a 1995 Pontiac Bonneville engine than deciphering this mess. There are a couple with under 20 kilometers for like $740 Canadian. And if you can afford one you might buy one of the ones from the 2k newer motors because they are fresher motors and might have upgraded parts.

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2002
Engine
3.8L VIN K- 98KM POLICE IMPALA US$1481.48
CAN$2000.00 Cargo Auto Recyclers - (Can$) Can-ON(North-Bay) E-mail 1-800-267-2991
2002
Engine
3.8L VIN K- 28KM,RUNS GOOD 16.8K
28KM K1113 US$1333.33
CAN$1800.00 Saunders Auto Service (Can$) Can-On(Thorndale) E-mail 1-800-265-0369
2000
Engine
Chevy Monte Carlo 3.8,VIN K,200-220 COMP,OIL 60 46.2K
77KM NM4063 US$1333.33
CAN$1800.00 Hanks Auto Wreckers - (Can$) Can-ON(St.-Clements) E-mail 1-519-745-4495
2002
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8 WO SUPERCHARGER 210-230 OIL40 PB4090 US$1333.33
CAN$1800.00 Hanks Auto Wreckers - (Can$) Can-ON(St.-Clements) E-mail 1-519-745-4495
2000
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8L,AOT 42K
70KM PD1137 $1200 Logels Auto Parts (Can$) Can-On(Kitchener) Quote 1-800-818-9118 Insurance-Quote
2001
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 042KM CLEAN NEEDS PAN V10195 US$1111.11
CAN$1500.00 Corey Auto Wreckers (Can$) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-800-265-9250
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala 47K LESS BALANCER 090601 US$1111.11
CAN$1500.00 P and G Auto (Can$) Can-On(North-Bay) E-mail 1-800-461-9562
1999
Engine
Buick Regal $FIRM$ 3.8L AW210 US$1099.99
CAN$1484.99 Standard Auto Wreckers - (Can$) Can-On(Scarborough) Quote 1-416-286-8686 Insurance-Quote
1999
Engine
Buick LeSabre VERIFY OK WF3101 US$1066.67
CAN$1440.00 Woodbeck Auto Parts - (Can$) Can-ON(Stirling) E-mail 1-613-395-3336
1997
Engine
Buick LeSabre 3800 ATOD RUN NICE 075146 KM W06021 US$1037.04
CAN$1400.00 Corey Auto Wreckers (Can$) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-800-265-9250
1999
Engine
Buick LeSabre 3.8L,AOT RAN-A1 150COMP 129K
215KM NC1113 $900 Logels Auto Parts (Can$) Can-On(Kitchener) Quote 1-800-818-9118 Insurance-Quote
2002
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix GT, 3.8L, EFI, ATOD, C-180,0-40 23568 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Bell City Auto Center (Can$) Can-On(Brantford) E-mail 1-800-265-8498
1999
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8L,AOD,FLR,NOT RUN-ANTITHEFT SYSTM 83.4K
139KM M33121 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
1999
Engine
160COM,66C,R-GOOD,CO LD START ONLY 19.8K
33KM DA0011 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Modern Auto Parts Limited - (Can$) Can-ON(Scotland) E-mail 1-800-265-8005 1-519-443-8632
2001
Engine
Buick Regal 165COM,58C 34H,A1 10MIN 18.6K
31KM DC0074 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Modern Auto Parts Limited - (Can$) Can-ON(Scotland) E-mail 1-800-265-8005 1-519-443-8632
2001
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8L,AT,FLR,125X6 COLD,NOT RUN 27K
45KM M23186 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
1999
Engine
Oldsmobile 88 3.8L,-329 UPPER,NOT RUN M20524 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
1999
Engine
Buick Regal 3.8,AT,FLR M32429 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
2002
Engine
Chevy Impala 3.8L,AOD,NO STATS PAA US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
2000
Engine
Chevy Monte Carlo 3.8L,AOD,BURNT,INSTA LL HERE M20087 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
2000
Engine
Chevy Monte Carlo 3.8L,AOD,OILPAN SMASHED,NOT RUN M12059 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Millers Auto Recycling - (Can$) Can-On(Fort-Erie) E-mail 1-800-263-8104
1996
Engine
Oldsmobile 88 3800 ATOD RUN GOOD V12317 US$888.89
CAN$1200.00 Corey Auto Wreckers (Can$) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-800-265-9250
2001
Engine
Chevy Impala 3800,4AT, 09-00 18.6K
31KM 3MY306 US$740.74
CAN$1000.00 Shaw Auto Recyclers (Can$) (No U.*. Shipping) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-888-826-8666
2000
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8,160-165 COMP COLD,55 OIL,HIT 3MA097 US$740.74
CAN$1000.00 Bodyline Auto Recyclers - (Can$) Can-On(Hamilton) E-mail 1-905-573-7000
1999
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8,165-170 COMP,55 OIL, 3JA088 US$740.74
CAN$1000.00 Bodyline Auto Recyclers - (Can$) Can-On(Hamilton) E-mail 1-905-573-7000
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala 3.8,165-170 COMP,55 OIL,CHECK-HIT 3JN082 US$740.74
CAN$1000.00 Bodyline Auto Recyclers - (Can$) Can-On(Hamilton) E-mail 1-905-573-7000
1999
Engine
Buick LeSabre 3.8,155-165 COMP,65 OIL HOT,70 COLD 3AP096 US$740.74
CAN$1000.00 Bodyline Auto Recyclers - (Can$) Can-On(Hamilton) E-mail 1-905-573-7000
1999
Engine
Buick LeSabre 3800,AOD 91.2K
152KM 3MY397 US$666.67
CAN$900.00 Shaw Auto Recyclers (Can$) (No U.*. Shipping) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-888-826-8666
1999
Engine
Oldsmobile Intrigue 3.8,AT 3MR451 US$666.67
CAN$900.00 Shaw Auto Recyclers (Can$) (No U.*. Shipping) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-888-826-8666
1999
Engine
Oldsmobile Intrigue 3.8,AT 3MY257 US$666.67
CAN$900.00 Shaw Auto Recyclers (Can$) (No U.*. Shipping) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-888-826-8666
2000
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3800,4AT, 01-00 90K
150KM 3AP129 US$666.67
CAN$900.00 Shaw Auto Recyclers (Can$) (No U.*. Shipping) Can-On(London) E-mail 1-888-826-8666
1999
Engine
Buick LeSabre 3800CC NICE RUN 180PSI TESTED 07-03 C3G035 $Call Carcone'* Pro Auto Recyclers (Can$) Can-On(Aurora) Quote 1-905-773-5778 Insurance-Quote
1999
Engine
Chevy Lumina Car 3800FI,C-AT OD,TESTED OK 1H045 $Call North Queen - (Can$) Can-On(Toronto) E-mail 1-416-233-5801
1999
Engine
Pontiac Bonneville 8-98,FWD,EFI,3.8L,AT ,SE 032145 $Call Schneider'* Auto Wrecking (Can$) Can-ON(Rostock) E-mail 1-800-565-4606
1999
Engine
Buick LeSabre 9-98,FWD,EFI,3.8L,AT ,CUSTOM 032252 $Call Schneider'* Auto Wrecking (Can$) Can-ON(Rostock) E-mail 1-800-565-4606
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala FWD,EFI,3.8L,AOD,LS, HKH J-5840 $Call Number 9 Auto Wreckers - (Can$) Can-ON(Tottenham) E-mail 1-800-263-3267
2000
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix SFI,3.8,AOD,GT AC0002 $Call B and D Auto Recycling - NO US Shipping (Can$) Can-ON(Oakville) E-mail 1-905-827-8015
1999
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix OK,OILED 99-GRI $Call Cookstown Auto Center Ltd. - (Can$) Can-ON(Cookstown) E-mail 1-705-458-4366
1999
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix GRN,3.8L,4DR-SED 37.8K
63KM 9393D $Call Cookstown Auto Center Ltd. - (Can$) Can-ON(Cookstown) E-mail 1-705-458-4366
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala 3.8L,ID,BKZ,OK,OILED BKZ-1 $Call Cookstown Auto Center Ltd. - (Can$) Can-ON(Cookstown) E-mail 1-705-458-4366
1999
Engine
Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8L,VIN K TAG 001052 H-1791 $Call Number 9 Auto Wreckers - (Can$) Can-ON(Tottenham) E-mail 1-800-263-3267
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala 3.8,TMU, 02K002 $Call Number 9 Auto Wreckers - (Can$) Can-ON(Tottenham) E-mail 1-800-263-3267
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala 3.8L,C170-175,MINT RUNNER,SEE NOTES 032153 $Call Schneider'* Auto Wrecking (Can$) Can-ON(Rostock) E-mail 1-800-565-4606
1999
Engine
Pontiac Bonneville 1-99,FWD,EFI,3.8L,AT ,SE 032267 $Call Schneider'* Auto Wrecking (Can$) Can-ON(Rostock) E-mail 1-800-565-4606
2000
Engine
Chevy Impala 3800CC NO START 180 PSI TESTED C3G050 $Call Carcone'* Pro Auto Recyclers (Can$) Can-On(Aurora) Quote 1-905-773-5778 Insurance-Quote
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