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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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I'm not sure that a bad fuel pump would cause a high idle rate, but I'll have to take a good look at the FSMs when I get home tonite (if someone else hasn't helped you by then)
It'* true that the Bosch plugs don't seem to work very well in our cars, but it'* hard to imagine that they would cause that much trouble off the bat, new. For future reference, or if you decide to replace them, here'* what has been proven to work well:

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NGK or AC Delco

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AC Delco and Belden Premiums from NAPA are good choices

To test your coils:
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BTW, is this all on the same tank of gas (since you brought it up)? Have you tried a bottle of dry gas?
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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If kicking the car worked..try it again. I'm not convinced the ground issue is fixed.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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drove it to the gas station. added a bottle of dry gas and filled it up. drove around for 15 minutes and went home. next morning it didn't start at all.

correction: secondary coil readings are ~9kohm. And I can't test the primary because my meter only measures in kohms, doh! wish i could find my digital meter.

the fuel pump part of the ground issue is definitely fixed because i hear it prime every time i start the car.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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can I use the ac delco type II coils from a 93 bonneville?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lash
I'm not sure that a bad fuel pump would cause a high idle rate, but I'll have to take a good look at the FSMs when I get home tonite (if someone else hasn't helped you by then)
It'* true that the Bosch plugs don't seem to work very well in our cars, but it'* hard to imagine that they would cause that much trouble off the bat, new. For future reference, or if you decide to replace them, here'* what has been proven to work well:

For Plugs:
NGK or AC Delco

and Wires:
AC Delco and Belden Premiums from NAPA are good choices

To test your coils:
Ignition Coil Troubleshooting

BTW, is this all on the same tank of gas (since you brought it up)? Have you tried a bottle of dry gas?
as a quick note, the delco'* are NGK'*, so just go for whichever can be found cheaper...
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sbattert
can I use the ac delco type II coils from a 93 bonneville?
I tried the coils from the 93. Still didn't start.

Then this morning I pumped the throttle from inside the engine a few times - the first time it was kind of sticky. Tthen it did start up, but ran kind of rough. I'm going to try putting the original coils back.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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The coils shouldn't make a difference as long as they work.

The ICM could be a factor...however. Let'* go back a little
You have/had water issues and scraped the ground plate on the concrete. This helped your problem. You put the bosch +4 plugs in..we know the cars seem to eat these like bubble gum.

Let'* concentrate on what has worked well. Pull that ground plate out. Clean it and all connections properly and lightly dielectric them all. Make sure there'* no fresh water in the car. Pull the plugs and see how the look.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Good idea Bill. Otherwise we're just chasing ghosts and wasting your time, sbattert.
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