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Old 12-02-2010, 05:30 PM   #11
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Its a fat wire, although I forget the gauge. Its about the size of my pinkie finger, and it has its own in line fuse built into it. I didn't think it would breach that cap which is why I put it in there, but it seems like it did. 2 days straight my car was running like trash, hook up the amp, now its fine again.

The Olds was given to me by my grandparents. 1st/only owners other than myself. It has been well maintained to the best of my knowledge, but it may well have.
It does have rear defrost, but all seemed well with it. We had a lot of rain here, which caused some massive puddles. I rolled slowly through a few of them on my way home (probably deep enough to touch the bottom of the car)(it never stalled or anything bad). The car ran well for a day or two after this, but then started doing just what my Bonne was doing. It idles like crap. When you put it in gear with a foot on the brake, it really struggles. You can power through it at high RPMs, but anything maintaining speeds at low to mid rpms, and it will struggle pretty bad.
Before all this happened, the olds put my bonne to shame performance wise.
I checked the TPS, Coils, Cleaned MAF, cleaned TPS, new plugs and wires, and put in the narrow stove pipe where it usually makes the UIM leak.
I need to get it into the garage and put an amp into it pronto Ha-Ha.
What size fuse?
Where is it located?
Is this wire hot all the time?

It sounds like its the size of a battery cable, be very carfull with this wire.

The Olds:
Any codes?
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I'd have to check the Amps on the fuse. Its just typical stereo install stuff. Yes the wire is direct from the battery to the amp, but the amp only turns on when the head unit lets it. But yeah, its live always. I believe its 8 gauge if memory serves me. That wire has been through three cars with me so far, so I have owned it for a long time.

The Olds inst throwing any codes that turn on a light, but not all codes throw lights. It is a 95, and it is in OBD limbo. I have access to 3 or 4 different scanners, none of which will scan either of these two cars.
So it may very well have codes stored that I cannot see without paying to have them read.
After my bonne I vowed to never own another mid 90s car ever again, but then my grands gave me the olds. I accepted it as its the same engine, and well, everything else as well.
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I'd have to check the Amps on the fuse. Its just typical stereo install stuff. Yes the wire is direct from the battery to the amp, but the amp only turns on when the head unit lets it. But yeah, its live always. I believe its 8 gauge if memory serves me. That wire has been through three cars with me so far, so I have owned it for a long time.

The Olds inst throwing any codes that turn on a light, but not all codes throw lights. It is a 95, and it is in OBD limbo. I have access to 3 or 4 different scanners, none of which will scan either of these two cars.
So it may very well have codes stored that I cannot see without paying to have them read.
After my bonne I vowed to never own another mid 90s car ever again, but then my grands gave me the olds. I accepted it as its the same engine, and well, everything else as well.
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I have a 95 Olds cutlass, couldent get any codes until I cleaned all grounds then got code, to get this OBD1 system read it take a special cable (actally obd2) to interface with reader, O'Riels auto parts was the only one that could do it. No charge but had to give credit card to use it in parking lot. Might be worth a try!
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I called around last year for scans for my Bonne. The Pontiac dealership here hooked me up free, but it took a while to get done, plus I had to limp my car in from where I live (about 20 mins out of the city) to get it done. It would have been ok a while ago, but now I have switched the plates to the bonne, so now it sits un-plated in a small town. :(!

What I need to do is scrape up some spare loot, and see if I can find one of those actron scanners or whatever they are. I keep seeing people here talking about this scanner that will read these cars without issue.
Cars now are way to complex to fix without codes most times. The Bonne had me and my dad ready to drive it out to a field and burn it out for the insurance money hahaha.
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I called around last year for scans for my Bonne. The Pontiac dealership here hooked me up free, but it took a while to get done, plus I had to limp my car in from where I live (about 20 mins out of the city) to get it done. It would have been ok a while ago, but now I have switched the plates to the bonne, so now it sits un-plated in a small town. :(!

What I need to do is scrape up some spare loot, and see if I can find one of those actron scanners or whatever they are. I keep seeing people here talking about this scanner that will read these cars without issue.
Cars now are way to complex to fix without codes most times. The Bonne had me and my dad ready to drive it out to a field and burn it out for the insurance money hahaha.
If your going to get a reader get one that does both obd 1, 1 1/2, 2. I got a autoxray off craigs list for 50, (all the cables), will always be worth that, no more going to O'riles (priceless)! I dont have anything with obd 2 yet. My problem continues! Post coming!
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See I have 2 obd1 scanners an OBD2 scanner and an OBD1&2 scanner, but no love for me. I thought the 1&2 was what i needed as it had wires for lots of cars, but it was a waste of money. Nice scanner on board code directory etc, but when you plug the OBD2 wire in, the machine goes to OBD2 reading, and OBD1 wire puts the reader in OBD1. I assumed when I looked at it that if it reads both, it would be able to understand OBD1 codes via the OBD2 cable.
Totally not what happened.
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See I have 2 obd1 scanners an OBD2 scanner and an OBD1&2 scanner, but no love for me. I thought the 1&2 was what i needed as it had wires for lots of cars, but it was a waste of money. Nice scanner on board code directory etc, but when you plug the OBD2 wire in, the machine goes to OBD2 reading, and OBD1 wire puts the reader in OBD1. I assumed when I looked at it that if it reads both, it would be able to understand OBD1 codes via the OBD2 cable.
Totally not what happened.
What kind of readers are they?

You might have the right one, but not the right cable (94-95), there is alot of guys on here who can help with this hook up .
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Its an innova scanner OBD1&2. Its this one I believe http://www.amazon.com/Equus-3120-Dia.../dp/B000KID2ZC

I haven't tried doing much to it outside its regular uses. I dunno if it can be made to work properly. If it can, omg omg omg.. lol
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Its an innova scanner OBD1&2. Its this one I believe http://www.amazon.com/Equus-3120-Dia.../dp/B000KID2ZC

I haven't tried doing much to it outside its regular uses. I dunno if it can be made to work properly. If it can, omg omg omg.. lol
Your gonna have to read that manual, I couldent get it to work at that web site. Start a new post someone hear will know.
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