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1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 10-17-2007, 12:54 AM   #11
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Its possible to have that happen if you were running pig rich... and the oil became contaminated with fuel..

Usually when you have a Code 41... The PCM will revert to the last known good learned fuel values... and it will try to run off that value.. and chances are you may be a bit richer too..

And Trust me, even my L36 gave me no warning... It just happened.. Was moving along and then suddenly I could feel the motor start binding a bit... Looked at the oil pressure and did the " Oh ****, Not Good " thing... By that point it was too late, the signs of a Knock were present.. we took it apart and found that it had spun the #4 rod bearing.. The sad part was the car the motor came from had 90k on it, and the Motor had a Reman Tab on the side of the block , it still spun that bearing..

I still know how you feel man..

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Old 10-17-2007, 01:09 AM   #12
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what are my chance of the block being ok. and just replacing the bearing.

is there really any hope for that?
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:16 AM   #13
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what are my chance of the block being ok. and just replacing the bearing.

is there really any hope for that?
From the sound, The crank is already scarred and had to be turned down or replaced.. Then you would have to have the bearings or a general Crank kit, that will run you about $250 iirc.. and thats if the Rod didn't get damaged in any way that would require it to be replaced or resized..

In the end it may almost be cheaper to go yank your own motor from the yard..

The Block should be fine... It hasn't blown up... I think it just wrapped bearing.. Not a good sign for the crank or the rod..

Most cost effictive I can think of is the lowest mileage unit you can find at the wrecker... I'd look for an L27 from a 94-95 Lesabre or the like.. Never know what Gem you may come across.. And it'll be cheaper than trying to fix what you have.. Just a thought

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if i did get a 94-95 block, i can use my LIM and up right? did anything change there?
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if i did get a 94-95 block, i can use my LIM and up right? did anything change there?
If you get a 94-95 Long block you will be able to use you Intake manifold and all of the assoiated parts... But you would have to use your 92'* Exhaust manifolds as you have no EGR and the 94-95 would..

So yes all of your top parts will swap over

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if i did get a 94-95 block, i can use my LIM and up right? did anything change there?
If you get a 94-95 Long block you will be able to use you Intake manifold and all of the assoiated parts... But you would have to use your 92'* Exhaust manifolds as you have no EGR and the 94-95 would..

So yes all of your top parts will swap over
ya know, i knew that. i guess its just good to have confirmation. thanks Don.
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Anytime... Let us know what you decide to do

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ohh man am i relieved.

ok, so i just took off the oil pan when the gf got home at 9. i couldnt see any any damage. i was confused. so i get a 24 mm wrench to spin the crank and see if that helps find a problem. and nothing. everything is ok. soo wtf???

the noise heard in the vid is a chunk of the starter nose cone. it must have got caught on the flywheel and locked the eng up. the starter has a lifetime warranty, its no cost, just my labor. minus the oil pan gasket.

but im still gonna tear into it on saturday. im gonna do the timong chain and gears. no more procrastinating with that magnet.
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Whoa. Well...... that is a interesting discovery.
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That'* the kinda stuff that makes you smile for the rest of the week...
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