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Old 11-21-2007, 02:38 AM   #1
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Going to go to NAPA to get all four new struts. TechInfo only has part number info for ELC & CCR struts. Since I have neither, just a plane-jane SE, does anyone know what part numbers to get? NAPA online shows varius "NAPA-Response" and Sensa-Trac products, including "just" struts, and a "Quick Strut Modular Assembly", which appears to have more of the strut assembly compared to "just" the strut. Is the assembly better to buy? Do they expect you to re-use parts of your strut assembly if you buy "just" the strut? I'm totally confused.

I have no idea what to buy. I'm planning on having a shop install them, as I have neither the time nor the patience to do it myself. Ideally, if someone knows what part numbers I should get, I would be very grateful.

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Okay, here'* more info. I went directly to Monroe'* website and looked up the struts for the non-ELC, non-CCR strut. Here are my options, with pictures, any opinions welcome!:

For the front, they have part numbers 71822 and 171822. Of these, the latter has a larger assembly including the coil spring. I don't need that, right? Especially if I'm having a shop install them?

71822:


171822:



For the rear, they have part numbers 71799 and 171799. Of these, the latter appears to be an assembled version of the former, with the addition of a mounting plate. I'm thinking I don't need to replace my existing mounting plate.

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I bought the front and rear struts at NAPA, in both cases I got the "lesser" of the two options above, that is, without the spring, and without the mounting plate. Also, I didn't get the lower mounting bolt kits, listed as part number AK-43, because my NAPA dealer couldn't get them for a few days, and my car dealership that was doing the install said I was unlikely to need them, since California cars don't tend to get the type of rusting typical of cars from back east and up north.

Indeed, they were able to install them no problem, on Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. They said they wouldn't have time to perform an alignment, which is a standard part of their installation. I didn't have them do this, as my tire dealer has a free "Re-alignment" within 1-year or 12,000 miles of buying an alignment, which I had done several months back. Today (Friday, the day after Thanksgiving) I had my tire dealer balance and rotate my tires and perform a new alignment. Things are MUCH better now!

Since there are no part numbers for Non-ELC and Non-CCR struts on TechInfo, I'd like to ask that these part numbers be added to TechInfo for the reference of SE-owners. I know most of you guys are running supercharged SSEIs, but there are some SE owners like me in this club too! So help us out too, okay?

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You could always pick up the Delco OEM numbers on their site and cross ref. to Monroe. Are you trying to duplicate the original ride performance? If so you sound happy with the results.
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Bugsi, as I explained in my PM reply to you:

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http://catalog.tenneco.com/monroe/shockSelector.do

The numbers are actually very easy to find. The only reason the ELC strut numbers are listed in Techinfo is that sometimes they're a little harder to find, or misunderstood. Some distributors don't even know what ELC is. CCR is the other problem. Your application is very straightforward.
See why it'* not included now?
Non-ELC and non-CCR struts are very simple to find on any number of websites. CCR and ELC are a bit different.
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You could always pick up the Delco OEM numbers on their site and cross ref. to Monroe. Are you trying to duplicate the original ride performance? If so you sound happy with the results.
Yes, I'm very happy with the results! The Monroe numbers I listed here were the only Monroe Sensatracs for the non-ELC & non-CCR 92-99 Bonneville. I don't think there'* a firmer non-ECL non-CCR Monroe that is currently available, I think these are the best option, or else stock AC Delcos. While the Monroes feel a bit tighter than my OEMs, I think it'* because my OEMs were degraded over 10 years. I think they were originally about as firm as the Sensatracs.

I guess I understand about not posting the Monroe Sensatrac numbers in TechInfo for the non-ELC, non-CCR application if it'* readily available, I just automatically turn to this forum for info on parts recommendations for my car, and was surprised to -not find any! But I did find them on Monroe'* website.
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