1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

[1993 Bonneville] Car won't start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:21 AM
  #1  
CorradoT5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Israel
CorradoT5 is on a distinguished road
Default [1993 Bonneville] Car won't start

The car is a ponatic bonneville 1993 SE .

Battery, starter, fuses & relays are Ok.
Turning the key doing nothing.
Connecting the starter to the battery will start the car and after a sec it will stall.
I can hardly say it starts.

The car has an original in-key immobilizer, I suspect this is the source for my problems.
I allready tried using the spare key. Didn't help.

What do you think? Please help this is my dad'* car and it'* stuck for over a week now!

Great forum by the way!
Thanks,
Sahar.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:29 AM
  #2  
1993 SLE's Avatar
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 19,756
Likes: 1
1993 SLE is on a distinguished road
Default

what is the security light doing when the car is trying to start

PLEASE take the battery cables off (remove the boots from the terminals) and look for Crossion....if they are clean them and even if they look clean clean them anyway
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 01:24 AM
  #3  
CorradoT5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Israel
CorradoT5 is on a distinguished road
Default

what is the security light ? how will I recognize it ?
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 01:49 AM
  #4  
Archon's Avatar
RIP
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,656
Likes: 4
From: Grand Rapids, Mi
Archon is on a distinguished road
Default

The "security" light is a yellow light on the dash that says "security". It indicates the condition of the VATS system....what keeps the car from starting without the proper key resistance. Doing a search on VATS and/or security light will likely turn up a few posts.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:36 PM
  #5  
CorradoT5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Israel
CorradoT5 is on a distinguished road
Default

Well, I have read some great info but still couldn't find the answer to where is this VATS modul sitting? Is it behind the wheel where the ignition switch locates?

If my key died, should I replace the whole unit? or can I buy a new key with the resistance that I need ?

My dad is going to pay 170$ for the ignition switch replacement (2 keys+I.switch) and i'm not that sure that this is the source for the problem !!

Thanks guys
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:40 PM
  #6  
1993 SLE's Avatar
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 19,756
Likes: 1
1993 SLE is on a distinguished road
Default

STOP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It may or may not be the VATS.....in relation to the question....what is the LIGHT doing during starting....does it blink or does it remain on constant

ALSO...have you checked the battery cables???
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:45 PM
  #7  
Echo SSEI's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,448
Likes: 7
From: _Phoenix, AZ_ _WCBF '05, '06, '07 Survivor_ ____NEBF '07 Remnant___
Echo SSEI is on a distinguished road
Default

Security System Check procedures -

To begin:
1. Put ignition switch in RUN position (engine NOT running)
2. Close front doors
3. Unbuckle seat belts
4. Set park brake off

"SECURITY" indicator should light for approximately five seconds.


if "Security" indicator remains on or flashes, then there may be a problem that needs to be addressed.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:52 PM
  #8  
BillBoost37's Avatar
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,391
Likes: 30
From: Enfield, CT
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

And ... if there'* a problem to address..

We can help you fix the problem for under $5 worth of resistors, if it'* regarding the vats.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 03:38 PM
  #9  
CorradoT5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Israel
CorradoT5 is on a distinguished road
Default

Battery cabels are fine.
Did the security check...

What I see is this:

Inflatiable retraint, something like that (flashes for 4-5 sec then turns off)
Antilock
Service engine soon
Check gages (system monitor is not working for a long time)
Fasten seatbelt


I couldn't see any "security" light,
What do you think ?
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 03:45 PM
  #10  
Echo SSEI's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,448
Likes: 7
From: _Phoenix, AZ_ _WCBF '05, '06, '07 Survivor_ ____NEBF '07 Remnant___
Echo SSEI is on a distinguished road
Default

Unless something is different for '93 from '97, I suspect your security bulb may be out, the light may have been disconnected, or there is a short in the system not allowing it to illuminate.

Not exactly sure where you should go from here. Wait for some others with more experience to chime in.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:35 PM.