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Old 07-16-2003, 09:46 PM   #1
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i hopped in the 87 today, gonna go up the street real quick...
it cranks once over, the bendix pops out, so i crank it again, bendix doesnt engage...
so now the solenoid is out...

everytime i fix this car something dies...

if some thing major goes again this car is headed to a used car lot...

am i going to have to pull the front header?
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i hopped in the 87 today, gonna go up the street real quick...
it cranks once over, the bendix pops out, so i crank it again, bendix doesnt engage...
so now the solenoid is out...

everytime i fix this car something dies...

if some thing major goes again this car is headed to a used car lot...

am i going to have to pull the front header?
NOPE!
Just pull the fan assembly off (4 bolts - 2 top, 2 bottom)
Then hold your tongue right to get the starter out!
Remember the Starter shims TOO! Put the originals back in or you'll need a flywheel soon too!
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my 87 series 1 chirps when I start it, sounds ugly. new starter? shimmes?
my 92 series 2 sounds like my camaro when it starts, smooth
so i could be just how the series one sounds.. but it cant be how the toronados sound..
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my 87 series 1 chirps when I start it, sounds ugly. new starter? shimmes?
my 92 series 2 sounds like my camaro when it starts, smooth
so i could be just how the series one sounds.. but it cant be how the toronados sound..
woah there, series I wasn't until either 1988, or 1992...
series II did not start until 1995 and later. So, your 87 is just a 3.8, and your 92 is a series I. anyway, my 88 buick didn't make a chirp noise when it started and that sound isn't normal. you might want to check on that.
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this may sound far fetched, but ford water pumps like to chirp when they get old. also, it might be good to look at the motor mounts
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The service manual called it 3.8 series II tuned sequenal ported injection. but the 87 mite just be a 3800.
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I just replaced my starter on Sunday. I had to remove the EGR tube from the header to get out once disconnected. I didn't even think about shims, I just took out the old one and put in the new. It seems to sound fine, but what should I check to make sure?
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woah there, series I wasn't until either 1988, or 1992...
series II did not start until 1995 and later. So, your 87 is just a 3.8, and your 92 is a series I. anyway, my 88 buick didn't make a chirp noise when it started and that sound isn't normal. you might want to check on that.
Actually, he'* right to a point.....The LN3'* were designed the same as the Series I'* are & most parts are interchangeable!
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I just replaced my starter on Sunday. I had to remove the EGR tube from the header to get out once disconnected. I didn't even think about shims, I just took out the old one and put in the new. It seems to sound fine, but what should I check to make sure?
It may not have shims....It all depended on how well the mating surface is when both the Starter & Housing are. The shims allow you to adjust the clearance between the Starter & the Flywheel teeth. Too much one way & you get a grinding noise, too much the other weay & you get a nice spinning noise!
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ok guys, i finally got that starter off., turns out, i couldn't see the bolts because of the fly wheel inspection sheild.... though the good ole boys i found a dealer man who showed me where they were, he was real nice about it... didn't even call me a retard. that part was easy, but now how do i get the starter out of the car?
i got it off the motor... just not out of the car...
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