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Old 06-07-2003, 02:01 AM   #11
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My educated guess, this is not an official quote from MSD..is that they under produced based on recent market issues. Alot of stores were keeping supplies low just in case. MSD product is not necessarily a budget cut purchase. Anyway Jegs and Summit were the first to run out then came all the suppliers they pulled from. There are pockets of supply but they are running out very very fast. I found a stockpile of 4 and I now have one from that pile another one on hold in New York and one in British Columbia Canada. This will be like this until late July when they are back in stock and then it should balance out for the rest of the summer. My most recent customer would not been able to find coils from Jegs or Summit and when I can beat them out I always feel good. lol

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There is only ONE SINGLE COIL left in whole of Edmonton too.
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The only way to do that would be to swap out the ENTIRE Engine Bay Harness, Both the Ignition Coils, Ignition Module, and ECU/PCM.
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The only way to do that would be to swap out the ENTIRE Engine Bay Harness, Both the Ignition Coils, Ignition Module, and ECU/PCM.
Sorry we just switch them out. To tell you the whole story my 88 LE was on the blink and my friends 87 SE'* windshield had a crack in it so he couldn't get it registared so he let me borrow his Module and coils (Magnavox). I actually looked exactly like mine but when I tried to use it in my car it some how messed it up and wouldn't work at all. Me feeling bad went to eBay and found a unit off an 87 SE also but it was the AC Delco Type II system. I don't think I paid more that $30 dollars for the entire module with the coils. Well I won the auction and he put it in and worked great.

What I am talking about should work for the Vin 3 engine but not for the Vin C. If you do a parts search on http://www.acdelco.com for the Vin 3 you will see it shows you can use either the D1996 MAGNAVOX UNIT or the D1946A TYPE II-D/REMY but if you do a search for the Vin C it shows you can only use the D1922A MAGNAVOX UNIT.

There is more than one type of Magnavox Module and more than one AC Delco System out there. Maybe I just got lucky.

Mostly what I have seen if you have the Vin 3 you can switch the Magnavox out with the appropriate AC Delco but if you have the Vin C the only thing is avalible is the Magnavox. If you were looking to do this with you 91 LE you are out of luck because the only thing that was offer for the 91 was the Vin C.
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All I know is that the Series I'* (92-95) can't be done that simply. The ECU/PCM helps control the Ignition too. I've got the Magnvox style in my 92 SE & my Series II engine has the Delco-Remy style.
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In 92 they used both modules in the BONNEVILLE'* on the VIN L and the SC VIN 1. Some were made using the Magnavox D1922A and some were made using the Delco D1977A but they are not compatible with each other. It seems like Pontiac finally found one they liked because the D1977A was used in mostly everything from 93+. I know what you are talking about on your 92 though, that it also controls the ignition too. The Magnavox D1922A which should be what you have in you car has 2 rows of pins in the main connection where all the others only have one row of pins. I never thought of why it had a second row of pins but I guess this would explain it, it has a lot more work to do.
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