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Old 01-23-2005, 03:28 AM   #11
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well I figured it was just a lot of moisture was getting into my coil-plug connections, so I stuck some aviation electronic grease stuff to help protect it from getting any moisture. The stuff helped but if there is a problem im worried, but a lot of the people have a problem starting there cars not just me. this weather isnt helping. snow knee high and
-20 deg. C and here I am changing a head light... trying to fix the muffler. I got a question abotu the muffler btw.. the middle section what holds that up? kinda hangs there, I bought a rubber gasket look rubber band suppost to support the middle pipe. Soooo any ideas what im missing? Just the middle part hangs there.
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Old 01-23-2005, 09:13 PM   #12
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I think that the middle part does just hang there, IIRC. There'* a hanger near the cat, then it just hangs for a long span before the next hanger toward the rear of the car, like behind the gas tank. I think that it just relies on the stiffness of the pipe to remain up there.
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Old 01-24-2005, 10:35 PM   #13
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well the day has come. when the bonner wont start and let me drive it to work.
Soooo.. I tried tonight in this beautiful tropical -16 Ontario weather to do the coil.. while I was getting dumped on by 5-10cm of snow! damn I need a garage!.. I will have to finish the coil job tommorw its just not welcoming outside at the moment.
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Can't wait to hear what happens. I'm currently waiting for my coils and ICM to fix some ignition problems as well.
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a few things i noted: your right about windchill not afecting machinery (correctly stated by the moisture presence on skin thing). a way to test windchill is to wrap a thermometer with a little wet paper and let the wind blow on it and see how much colder it gets.

but as for cold cars not starting:
just this weekend we had some snow here in Blacksburg, VA and my car started right up in the snow storm (and i have an old battery in there, has to be older than 7 or 8 years). however the next afternoon (snow had stopped falling by then) the car would turn over just once and then not have the power to keep the starter turning. The battery read above 12V and the radio and accessories worked fine. so i brought the battery inside and it let it warm up for an hour or two and then reinstallled it and the car started right up. I know battery output reduces with temperature but I always figured that meant voltage reduced. yet my battery read 12 v but couldn't start the car.
It was strange. In any event all i'm saying is i think it happeend to me too. if you need to go and it happens again try bringing your battery inside for a while to warm up.
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Sounds more like corrosion in the battery cable (correctred temporarily by the R&R). Had a similar problem on our 90 a year ago and had to completely disassemble the postitive cable stack and use combination of wire brush and nasty stuff to really clean all of the parts.
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update: The other night I was trying to take the coil out in a snow storm but I just stopped it was just not the proper conditions for working on a car. But I got 2 of hte nuts off the coil and put a flat head underneeth coil to sorta move it around in its place a bit without removing the last nut underneeth the negative connection from battery to block. The reult - the coil is working .. no problems for 2 cold days now. Starts up on a dime. So I think playing around in there must of fixed something up. I will replace the coil anyways to be safe I just need to wait. we got dumped on agian last night 15 cm...
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15cm / 2.54 cm/inch = 5.9 inches .. we'll leave it at 6" Nice
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Lotsa bad ground problems cold climates (expand/contract ?
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this is the coldest winter ive been in I swear, the weather was -22 deg.C , but -32 with the wind, not to mention I work at the airport so its always 5 deg. difference so were looking at probley -37 deg. C with the wind. guys it was so cold I couldent even turn the ignition switch. My car started after a few of the starter slips that you get with the 3.8 when its cold. the VROOOMMM but nothing happens.
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