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Old 06-07-2006, 01:36 PM   #21
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No doubt. Always good to have spares when one starts acting up. Good to hear that the frame is still hanging in there.


I spoke to my friend last night. and the Bonne gets AC either tues, wed, or thurs. Parts have been ordered, and now it just depends on what day that he'll have the chance to do it. It also puts me out of a car for a day..... but its in good hands
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Its been settled- Bonne gets AC on either monday, tuesday, or wed.
Reason that its all over the place is they are waiting on a part to come up from south of the boarder- what that part is im not sure.
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OK- so the car went in today- and they were still missing a part- so I have to wait another day. It is getting done on wednesday for sure now. But I had to post some pics of my loaner: 1987 Sunbird







It only has 89k KM!
My friends dad came home the same time I did- and he said "It sure isn't a Bonneville is it?"

more pics to follow.
two more days and no Bonneville.......
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What a piece of junk.....It embarasses me that it'* a GM.
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It is definitly a piece of crap. But gets the job done while the Bonne gets her upgrades done.
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Wow, I didn't think there were many of those left... An old 2.0 OHC attached to a 3T40

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Wow, I didn't think there were many of those left... An old 2.0 OHC attached to a 3T40
I didn't either. And the engine and bay is so clean.
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Its quite clean for an almost 20 year old car

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OK, just getting to this post and wanted to throw in my two cents.

First, $850 for all you're getting is a bargain, IMO. You couldn't do any better here in the states.

Second, for clarification, while there may be no such thing as "an R134a compatible O-ring", there is such a thing as a PAG oil compatible o-ring. PAG oil will swell the old neoprene o-rings in an R12 system. That is why the o-rings used in an R134a system are at minumum a coated o-ring and are often a compound other than neoprene. For those that are unsure of this, take a couple neoprene o-rings and soak them in PAG oil for a week. Measure the major and minor diameters and the material diameters both before and after the soaking. Let me know what you find. I already know.

Bottom line: while you don't have to change the o-rings for an R134a conversion, it is best practice for long term performance. Keep that in mind.
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OK, just getting to this post and wanted to throw in my two cents.

First, $850 for all you're getting is a bargain, IMO. You couldn't do any better here in the states.

Second, for clarification, while there may be no such thing as "an R134a compatible O-ring", there is such a thing as a PAG oil compatible o-ring. PAG oil will swell the old neoprene o-rings in an R12 system. That is why the o-rings used in an R134a system are at minumum a coated o-ring and are often a compound other than neoprene. For those that are unsure of this, take a couple neoprene o-rings and soak them in PAG oil for a week. Measure the major and minor diameters and the material diameters both before and after the soaking. Let me know what you find. I already know.

Bottom line: while you don't have to change the o-rings for an R134a conversion, it is best practice for long term performance. Keep that in mind.
Thanks Lash. Intitially when I was reading AC posts most US members seemed to be able to get this done for less then up here. The cheapest place that I could find to do this was well over $1800, another was $2000, with warranty. But maybe some of the posts that I read were for recharging only. But this whole system is fried. So I feel good knowing that this is a good price. just gotta wait another two days......
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