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Old 01-09-2004, 11:07 AM   #21
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I noticed that you have an intake on the Bonnie... How much did that help in the power department? I had changed my coil setup to the Type II system, or the Delco system because I wanted the MSD coils for it... I'm not trying to make my 91 a performer, But I want it to run better... I have even thought about tinkering with the engine and installing better pistons and a cam with a little more lift than stock keeping the car driveable and strong in the low end with a midrange and somewhat of a top end to match.....

The Type 2 DIS system came off a 98 Bonneville SE.. It worked for 3 months almost and then the module went out... Nice thing to happen while driving... Caused a lot of half stals and stumbling here and there... So I'm back to the old module again...

How much better does the car run with the intake, and exahust done on the car?


The intake helps a great deal in the low end and high end department, and creates a nice sound to my car as well. I am gonna be changing my coil setup to MSD very soon, I need some small maintaneance parts then I will be able to conentrate on the bingger things, like a chip and a supercharger. My exhaust I have redone all the way back to my manifold, but i have not replaced my headers or my manifold, just basically all new piping and new cat underneath the car, which helps a great deal when u want some much needed HP. It really gives u that extra kick of power to get out of the hole quicker and helps u accelerate to 60 a little quicker. I am actually surprised how quick I can accelerate to 60, but I am not gonna say how fast cause I know I will get slammed again like I did before a few weeks ago, so I am just gonna say my car is very quick. I am actually thinking about replacing my cams and headers eventually, it would definately help. The Plugs I have are Denso Iridiums, top of the line plugs for my year bonnie, I paid 13 bucks a plug for them, so about 85 dollars in all for all 6 new plugs. I have money so I can afford stuff like that, plus new wires as well. My exhaust sounds great, really beast like, I have a Flowtech Terminator Muffler, I have only used flowtech mufflers on my car, if I ever get an ssei, I plan on going all magnaflow. The thing with getting a turbo is even though I do have money, I don't have that much, turbos are expensive, and a bonnie has always been known to have a supercharger put into it, hense the SSEi. So I think putting a nice supercharger in would I can't say carry on the tradition of the ssei cause my car is a 90, but it would keep it in it'* rightful place, u know.
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a turbo would be a much cheaper option, they never made a supercharger for your 'series" 3.8, so either way it would be 100% custom, and very very expensive, much much more than the value of the car. also, there'* no way they could strap a roots type blower on that, it would most likely be a vortech, which isn't the low end monster of a roots. turbo'* are also safer. but anyway....

a stock v-tech civic will take 99.9% of 1990 bonneville'*, but your in the .1%........not all civics where "v-tech" most where even slower.
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Well in that case maybe a turbo would be a better option, if it is cheaper. Plus turbo does provide more hp then a supercharger and a supercharger is much larger as well and the turbo is not so freaking bulky. I don't have a series 1 3.8, I just have a regular 3800 fuel injected v6 that they put in the grand national, a turbo would help my times dramatically, plus I had planned to go with a turbo in the first place with some much needed suggesting by a friend of mine. Plus with the money i get off my wing, I can get a spoiler off a sse that some people told me to do, so that would be cool. This year will be strictly dedicated to my car, and once summer rolls around and I hit our hang out spot in town, and my car will be completely stock looking with about 350hp under the hood, no one will ever know. And by the way I have raced at least 2 stock v-tec civics before and blew them away right off the line, surprised me cause v-tec '* are tough engines, but nothing like a 3800, I think the 3800 was rated one of the best v6 motors ever. That'* what i heard a few months ago. Anyway, thanks.
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If you get a turbo, you won't have to race the VTEC'*. You will be up there with turbo SHO'*.

What'* a turbo run? A few grand?
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To be honest, my friend owns a performance parts shop, he said give me 1000 dollars and I'll give u 400hp under the hood of your car.
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Wow, now that'* a deal.
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yeah it definately is, I can't wait till everything is done.
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Well in that case maybe a turbo would be a better option, if it is cheaper. Plus turbo does provide more hp then a supercharger and a supercharger is much larger as well and the turbo is not so freaking bulky.
Not necessarily true on the HP. Depends on what you're after. Do you want your power off the line? Low-end torque? No lag? Then go Supercharger. Do you want high-end hp? Not so great off the line, but higher-rpm accelleration? Then go turbo.
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If you get a turbo, you won't have to race the VTEC'*. You will be up there with turbo SHO'*.

What'* a turbo run? A few grand?
Turbo'* cheaper if you have access to a metal shop. The manifolds are the harder part of it, then you get a custom burned PCM as well.

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Not necessarily true on the HP. Depends on what you're after. Do you want your power off the line? Low-end torque? No lag? Then go Supercharger. Do you want high-end hp? Not so great off the line, but higher-rpm accelleration? Then go turbo.
Actually you could setup the turbo to spool very low, and have a nicely adjusted wastegate. Turbo'* create MASSIVE mid-upper torque, and the HP is phenominal. a T3 T4 or T3/4 hybrid will work good on a 3.8l engine. A lower compression ratio is wanted as well, because of the high boost levels. A blow off valve is a must
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A blow off valve is a must
That would sound great too.
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