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Old 03-02-2012, 08:24 AM   #41
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i like the vw'* more sporty appearance, gm doesnt really have that anymore without pontiac. they also have diesel options and manual trans which get better mileage. and subaru, vw, and toyotas are built here as much if not more than gm. there were alot of gm or gm contract companies around here before, a few people in my family lost there jobs when they moved most everything away to mexico, or canada. so the more i think about i the less i seem to care.
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"I'm loyal to Chevrolet, and, always will be."

GM hasn't been loyal to us and continues not to be loyal to anyone except their inner circle of executives. GM quit being focused on being a leading vehicle manufacturer in the 1980'*, instead focusing on cash flow and using vehicles simply as a tool in their quick turn cash flow game. Made huge short term paper profits over the next 20 years, at the cost of the consumers that loyally bought GM vehicles and the average american who invested in GM stock and bonds. It was and still is a shame.

GM'* current president/CEO is a investment banker; not a true auto guy (unlike the CEO of VW/BMW or Mercedes). Out of BK, GM is back to its old cash flow paper profit tricks. One of the biggest examples of this is GM bought a sub-prime auto lender for 4 BILLION dollars. They bought this sub-prime lender because banks would not make high risk auto loans to GM customers. GM is back selling full size SUVs and the likes to people that can't afford them. GM is able to post a huge paper profit from this, both in the sale of the vehicle and in the auto loan (which GM tacks on a lot of juice fees). What happens is many of the sub prime loans default, and GM repos the SUVs. This drives down the resale value of the SUVs, and screws anyone who bought a GM SUV. A bad cycle. GM should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of investing 4 billion in research, engineering and modern factories, they focused their money and time on how to sell people who, as a group, can't pay for them.

Personally, I wished GM went BK, not bailout. And then the USA put a 15 year ban on imported vehicles. VW, BMW, Mercedes and many others would of been in Michigan and other states buying every shut down GM plant, would of been great for the economy and we would of got better American made vehicles.

I love my GM vehicles, but they have made me a mechanic on the side keeping them running. I do not love the leadership of GM in the past or the present.
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I personally think GM makes great cars and I'll be loyal to them for a long time. The owner of this dealership also has Buicks. Originally went there to get a Buick.

But after driving a VW compared to any GM car. I was amazed at the quality difference of the cars. Now I'm on my second VW. It might be my last after I get this one paid off and sell it.

I've had a lot of small issues with this car.
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you mean gm is better or the other way because i would have thought the vw'* would be the ones that didnt nickel and dime you
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I think by far the quality and feel of the VW is much nicer.

When driving the new regal I test drove. When in a corner I thought the rear end just kinda floated around. Didn't feel like one solid car.

The VW feels like your driving one solid car. Also feels very confident in the corners. Even at speed.
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