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Old 11-02-2006, 10:44 PM   #11
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The Techinfo article listed above is still valid.

A FULL SWAP is far more cost and time-effective than a conversion. But better than that is STILL:

SELL THE SLE. Buy an SSEi. From a cost and practicality standpoint, it'* by far the most reasonable option. And you gain more than boost.
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And even with a SSEi, the Cobalt SS should still have you by a bit...

You will need a SSEi with some mods to take him...
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from my understanding there is lots of potential in the L36 staying N/A. (head work, and valve train work.) I believe Big_News_1 (Ben) has done this type of work.
But you will need cash, maybe not as much as doing a turbo, or bolting a SC and having to work on the tranny.

the path you choose is up to you, as SCing IS possible, but it is not the best option for power- best option is to buy a SSEi or a SC SLE.
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o.k. o.k. i get the picture i guess i got a gutless car on my hands, i thought i could do SOMETHING!
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:16 PM   #15
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o.k. o.k. i get the picture i guess i got a gutless car on my hands
uhhhh that is not a totally accurate statement....

you do realize that the cobalt is prolly half of the weight of your car right...
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o.k. o.k. i get the picture i guess i got a gutless car on my hands
uhhhh that is not a totally accurate statement....

you do realize that the cobalt is prolly half of the weight of your car right...

Unless its gutted, the cobalts are right at 3000 lbs. 400 lbs lighter than his car. either way I say get a 97+ ssei, they can be had for under $4000 with $500 in mods you can pwn the cobalt
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the path you choose is up to you, as SCing IS possible, but it is not the best option for power- best option is to buy a SSEi or a SC SLE.
Actually it IS debateably the best option for power. Turbo being the other. With the 9.4:1 compresion in the L36 the gains are awesome.

With a base top swap costing ~$1800 installed and a base turbo ~$3000 installed, you decide.

As far as "creature" comforts in the Bonne levels I dont know. GPGT guys top swap all the time, and they have the same comforts as a GTP owner, and the TS'ed L36 will walk all over the L67.

As far as dependability in the trans, assuming you have a healthy trans to begin with, you will see no problems. Unless you drive like a fool. The only issue with the non-HD trans is the diff being smaller.

As for the 4t60 guys, you will see problems. Granted some are doing quite well, but to me its just a time bomb.
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man what a debate i started, if anyone thinks i got a chance in hell i guess in doing something like this just give me a PM.
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Put a bunch of N20 on the car beat his *** then swap in a new motor

Still be cheaper than a turbo....
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Well talked to the guys at www.gmtuners.com and recomended i do a full motor swap they said everything will bolt on the same all i gatta do is get it programmed and get the frywhell drilled to match, (im on my way!) cobalt here i come.
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