Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning Talk about modifications, or anything else associated with performance enhancements. Have a new idea for performance/reliability? Post it here. No idea is stupid! (please use Detailing and Appearance for cosmetic ideas)

Supercharged Engine and Tranny Replacement

Old 03-16-2005, 04:55 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Posts like a 4 Banger
Thread Starter
 
crod101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
crod101 is on a distinguished road
Default Supercharged Engine and Tranny Replacement

Can I replace the engine and tranny in my '95 SSE with a complete system from a '98 GTP? I saw this link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW. It'* very tempting to do. Can this be done? How much will it cost? How much time? Who'* done this? Does anything else need to be replaced (radiator, suspension, breaks, etc.)? Obviously, I wouldn't do it but send it to an engine specialty shop. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Old 03-16-2005, 05:02 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
phoenix_flame220's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
phoenix_flame220 is on a distinguished road
Default

Short answer : yes with an if.... long answer: no, with a but......

Search for "engine swap" and look around the techinfo. Not impossible, but not easy, or cheap. One member here does swaps into fieros, they can give you the details.
Old 03-16-2005, 05:03 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
GAMEOVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Racine Wi
Posts: 5,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
GAMEOVER is on a distinguished road
Default

wiring is the biggest thing
Old 03-16-2005, 05:54 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
95naSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Philly
Posts: 4,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
95naSTA is on a distinguished road
Default

I seriously think that you should just buy the motor, a h-body side engine mount and bolt that up.
This way you can keep all of your wiring in place or with little modification to the stock engine harness, and just get a custom chip done.
In 95, n/a series 2'* were run on your computer. so a custom chip with the correct spark/fuel maps and possibly a few other things would make it work.
Much easier than ripping apart your stock wiring harness, worring about different axle lengths, etc.
Spiral did it too.
Old 03-16-2005, 08:01 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
phoenix_flame220's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
phoenix_flame220 is on a distinguished road
Default

If it were as easy as burning a chip, everyone would have s2 motors, but theres a lot more stuff that the */c motors have than the non-*/c does, You will need the complete engine harness and wiring. Which mean you have to take apart the engine compartment and the dash too I think. That engine kit seems to have more than everything you need. If you win the auction GO FOR IT!

Calling all experts!
Old 03-17-2005, 12:05 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
95naSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Philly
Posts: 4,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
95naSTA is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by phoenix_flame220
If it were as easy as burning a chip, everyone would have s2 motors, but theres a lot more stuff that the */c motors have than the non-*/c does, You will need the complete engine harness and wiring. Which mean you have to take apart the engine compartment and the dash too I think. That engine kit seems to have more than everything you need. If you win the auction GO FOR IT!

Calling all experts!
Like i said earlier, you will not need a complete wiring harness and wiring for this particular engine swap.
That harness and pcm is the same one in my 95 L36 equipped bonneville.
Therefore with a chip with corrected fuel/spark maps(less timing and more fuel) it should work.
Although there aren't any chips out there that you can just plug in, a custom one can be made.
Fiero guys use the 94/95 hybrid pcm and wiring harness all the time for series 2 L67/4T60 swaps.

That auction has alot more than you need, alot more. It'* just not useful.

I still think it would be easier to do everything i've said.
Oh, and it has been done before
Old 03-17-2005, 12:11 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
95naSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Philly
Posts: 4,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
95naSTA is on a distinguished road
Default

I miss-read that you have an SSE.
You may want to get a 4t60-hd trans too. That 4t60-e will hold up only if you drive like a grandma, and i know that'* not why you want to put that L67 in there
A 4t60-hd trans makes a series 2 L67 swap soo much easier in your car because you already have everything wired up.
Converting your car to OBDII will be much harder.
Old 03-17-2005, 11:49 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Posts like a 4 Banger
Thread Starter
 
crod101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
crod101 is on a distinguished road
Default

The 4t65E Tranny is included as well as the Computer (PCM). Everything should be alright. Anybody know what the cost and the time involved would be?
Old 03-17-2005, 12:27 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
GAMEOVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Racine Wi
Posts: 5,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
GAMEOVER is on a distinguished road
Default

2-3k
Old 03-17-2005, 01:39 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
95naSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Philly
Posts: 4,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
95naSTA is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by crod101
The 4t65E Tranny is included as well as the Computer (PCM). Everything should be alright. Anybody know what the cost and the time involved would be?
If you put a 4T65-hd (it comes with a hd not an e) you will have to convert your car to OBD2 which is much harder.
If you want to do it the hard way go ahead.
Oh and have fun with the axles and tranny mounts too.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Supercharged Engine and Tranny Replacement



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:02 PM.