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Old 04-12-2005, 04:07 PM   #11
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Just a reminder... This "mod" isn't a long term power adder. It is faking out a sensor to make the car think it is colder out than it really is. This "mod" only works on the engine (if at all) in very specific conditions, and the gains will be minimally noticeable at best. Now changing a pulley size, or adding headers, or freeing up the intake are all true mods - as they effect the cars power under any conditions. GM would never have to do something like this if they wanted to. They make the PCM'*. They can just program the differences into the tables at the factory.

And as far as the performance and power of the Bonneville goes... (this hurts a little to say)

....the Bonneville wasn't designed as a strip or street drag car. It is a family sedan, 4 doors, daily driver that Pontiac made. A family sedan doesn't need 600hp for the majority of buyers, and in fact, that would most likely deter more than it would draw. Now all that said, I do plan on suping mine up as much as possible, but this will not even be considered as one of the mods I do.


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So, somewhere in the GM food chain, some lawyer or somebody said "The Bonneville will only put out so many horsies" and the engineers had to set up the PCM or whatever to comply.
can you say cost of Insurance???

the SSEi insurance is more because of the up in HP
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So, somewhere in the GM food chain, some lawyer or somebody said "The Bonneville will only put out so many horsies" and the engineers had to set up the PCM or whatever to comply.
can you say cost of Insurance???

the SSEi insurance is more because of the up in HP
what ssei insurance is high????? LOL no way...

mine is only $170 a month
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i have had no tickets, no fines, or accidnets like that and mine is like triple that on my SLE
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i have had no tickets, no fines, or accidnets like that and mine is like triple that on my SLE
510 a month!!!!!!! my ***
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So, somewhere in the GM food chain, some lawyer or somebody said "The Bonneville will only put out so many horsies" and the engineers had to set up the PCM or whatever to comply.
can you say cost of Insurance???

the SSEi insurance is more because of the up in HP
what ssei insurance is high????? LOL no way...

mine is only $170 a month

Yep and mine is only $185.

I'm coming off of a 6 point ticket too!!!!!!!!
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wait, who enginereed that chip again? holy christ it was in every sentence....
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mine is only $170 a month

Yep and mine is only $185.

I'm coming off of a 6 point ticket too!!!!!!!![/quote]

Comp and only $175 every 6 months on the '92 SSEi
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Big thing about comparing insurance is if you have full coverage or just liability and your age is a HUGE factor as well.
SSEi = gadgets and power

if you are 21+ insurance see the SSEi and a gadgety luxo car

if your under 21 insurance sees the bigger engine and figgures you have no mental ability to control it so they screw you.
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notice that the seller items in his feedback are kept private
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