Series 1 L67's? Read this!
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Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
So Bill, your running a '94-'95 Supercharger, '94-'95 TB, '94-'95
MAF, and a '93 JET Stage 2 chip? and everything is running ok with the bigger TB
and etc.?
MAF, and a '93 JET Stage 2 chip? and everything is running ok with the bigger TB
and etc.?
and EM porting, not to mention the SC inlet and outlet work. All of them collectively allowed
me to flow well enough on the top end to get these results. And I'm not done yet. Another
possible HUGE leap forward will be tried very soon.
What kind of boost were you running with all the P&P with the '92-'93 topend?
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Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
So Bill, your running a '94-'95 Supercharger, '94-'95 TB, '94-'95
MAF, and a '93 JET Stage 2 chip? and everything is running ok with the bigger TB
and etc.?
MAF, and a '93 JET Stage 2 chip? and everything is running ok with the bigger TB
and etc.?
and EM porting, not to mention the SC inlet and outlet work. All of them collectively allowed
me to flow well enough on the top end to get these results. And I'm not done yet. Another
possible HUGE leap forward will be tried very soon.
What kind of boost were you running with all the P&P with the '92-'93 topend?
Looks like I need to find some 94/95 parts and ship them to you with my LIM and EM'*. I
have the intake, exhaust coming, 93 fuel rail, chip, spare PCM, and stuff. Just need to
get the vents in and I should be all set.
have the intake, exhaust coming, 93 fuel rail, chip, spare PCM, and stuff. Just need to
get the vents in and I should be all set.
My goal is to release all the details of the LIM porting when we're sure of it (after the
next two cars get things sorted out). Next changes to the LIM will REQUIRE a mill.
No other way around it.
Bear in mind I've made NO modifications to the TB yet, but that comes with the next
changes to the LIM. Shaving the TB shaft for a little more flow at the top end, and
alsoadding the nozzle for my WI.
My goal is to return the car back to the low-end power of the 92/93, and gain top end
at the same time without a cam.
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Wow Great work Bill !! ,
this all sound so exciting!,
I cant wait till im more mecanicaly inclined to benifit from all the findings you have made and shared with use
Keep up the good work
this all sound so exciting!,
I cant wait till im more mecanicaly inclined to benifit from all the findings you have made and shared with use
Keep up the good work
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Being prepared will be a good thing. Initial street testing and flowbench data show that
what I'm running in the car right now is comparable or even slightly better than running
The 61 or even possibly the 62 Crow Cam with no other work. That'* pretty remarkable.
Would the cam get me more? Probably. But not nearly as much if I hadn't done this prep
work. The top end of the Series 1 motor has alot of restrictions that must be dealt with.
And the heads won't gain you much in comparison to the LIM.
It'* a tough thing to say what really makes the difference, with so few cars getting really
serious about modding. You have to remember that the direction I took was to see how
far it could go WITHOUT the intercooler or a cam/rockers. From this point on, more power
will come at a much higher price per hp.
what I'm running in the car right now is comparable or even slightly better than running
The 61 or even possibly the 62 Crow Cam with no other work. That'* pretty remarkable.
Would the cam get me more? Probably. But not nearly as much if I hadn't done this prep
work. The top end of the Series 1 motor has alot of restrictions that must be dealt with.
And the heads won't gain you much in comparison to the LIM.
It'* a tough thing to say what really makes the difference, with so few cars getting really
serious about modding. You have to remember that the direction I took was to see how
far it could go WITHOUT the intercooler or a cam/rockers. From this point on, more power
will come at a much higher price per hp.
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Yeah, gotta pay to play is how i see it. My next big thing is to get another car, a cheap SE
or something to drive in the winter and when i am doing mods, i cant drive the Alero all
the time.
Im took hooked on my Bonneville, i would need another one.
or something to drive in the winter and when i am doing mods, i cant drive the Alero all
the time.
Im took hooked on my Bonneville, i would need another one.
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Thats some awesomes info and devellopment Willwren, even if i have a Serie II , i found that very interresting, your on the right way!
cant wait to see performance data.
cant wait to see performance data.
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Mike, I found a way to increase the velocity of the air in the runners of the Series 1 L67
LIM by as much as 25%. Someone else has discovered a way to make it even more.
This type of modification can greatly increase the performance of the car without a cam.
In fact, it improves it so much, that this by itself may improve performance MORE than a
cam by itself. The two together would be more, of course, but there'* a point where you
have to determine where the restriction is.
I don't know how much of this will relate to the Series 2, but I know for a fact SOME of the
future findings will. From my understanding, the S2 L67 LIM is already pretty well port-
matched to the heads, while the S1 is not. But it'* not just the port-matching that is the key
to unlocking the potential. It'* the design of the intake manifold itself.
LIM by as much as 25%. Someone else has discovered a way to make it even more.
This type of modification can greatly increase the performance of the car without a cam.
In fact, it improves it so much, that this by itself may improve performance MORE than a
cam by itself. The two together would be more, of course, but there'* a point where you
have to determine where the restriction is.
I don't know how much of this will relate to the Series 2, but I know for a fact SOME of the
future findings will. From my understanding, the S2 L67 LIM is already pretty well port-
matched to the heads, while the S1 is not. But it'* not just the port-matching that is the key
to unlocking the potential. It'* the design of the intake manifold itself.
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Bill, this is all truly amazing. Video is 1x right...real time? Your 0-60 time is unbelieveable...not to mention the 0-100.
Won't someone buy your ideas? Or is there just no market what so ever?
Stay tuned late this summer and you may find what you are looking for (**hint**).
Won't someone buy your ideas? Or is there just no market what so ever?
Originally Posted by SSEimatt93
Yeah, gotta pay to play is how i see it. My next big thing is to get another car, a cheap SE
or something to drive in the winter and when i am doing mods, i cant drive the Alero all
the time.
Im took hooked on my Bonneville, i would need another one.
or something to drive in the winter and when i am doing mods, i cant drive the Alero all
the time.
Im took hooked on my Bonneville, i would need another one.
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Logan, nobody will 'buy' my ideas because I won't sell them. I've always GIVEN my ideas
to the Forum. I'm at the point now where I could probably pad the paycheck a bit by doing
this work for members and selling intakes and Superchargers setup right, even exhaust
manifolds.
I don't have the time, nor do I wish to have a conflict with my Admin duties here.
to the Forum. I'm at the point now where I could probably pad the paycheck a bit by doing
this work for members and selling intakes and Superchargers setup right, even exhaust
manifolds.
I don't have the time, nor do I wish to have a conflict with my Admin duties here.