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Old 03-29-2008, 11:06 PM   #21
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Do you have anything worthwhile to add to this thread?

I know exactly how to interpret dynographs, thank you very much.

Perhaps you didn't read. "S1 dynos are going to be damn near impossible to find, so we have to go by vehicle performance."
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It'* not a cop out at all. One car out performing a similar weighted and geared car in the 1/8th is a pretty good indicator of more low end grunt. Dyno charts aren't the only things that speak, you know.
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Dirthead, I pulled that 1.9 sixty with FAR fewer mods than you, BadSSEi or Rogue. If you want to skew the samples to make the data go in your favor, pick another topic to do it in.
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here is a STOCK GTP that Intense/DynoTune MS strapped on less than a few weeks ago




and the thread that everyone can read...... stock as stock can be
http://www.3800pro.com/forum/round-t...ke-wheels.html
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Dirthead, the only power adders on my car when I pulled that last year were a ported SC, mildly ported heads, and rockers. I launched with the cutout closed for two of my 1.9'*.

All the rest are tuning or gauges. The S1 is far more difficult to tune than the S2. That'* why my list is long.

I figured you would have the experience to see a mod list and actually determine which mods add power, and which mods are used to tune it afterwards.

I'm really sick of arguing stupid crap in this topic, which had to be split from my other topic due to your off-topic posting. I suggest you drop the issue or post a topic of your own, or even better yet, do the research on your own. Nobody wants to argue with a brick wall, and this should be a DISCUSSION, not an argument or debate. Your MANNER of posting invites argument.
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I'm not familiar, is a GTP geared the same as a Bonneville? Just want to make sure, if we ever find a S1 dyno, that we compare apples to apples. If you can even manage to record a run far enough below 3k rpm to capture its peak reliably for either motor.
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