Rice pipe w/ heat sheild (CAI) vs. Fender well intake (FWI)
The tubing that I got from INTENSE was $12 a foot so I paid about $36 for it.
I think the biggest worry I had when I started thinking about this was indeed the water issue, however the actual problem that I have run into after driving it for a while, is that you have to clean the filter a lot more often.
One thing to remember about how much power I gained from switching to the FWI, is that in the process I switched to a pipe that was almost an inch larger than what I'd had.
Also, remember that our throttle bodies and intakes run directly over the cross-pipe on our exhaust. After a long run, the metal screen in my filter was hot enough to burn you, so the air going through had to be getting heated pretty good. Now with the rubber pipe, the intake is cool to the touch right up to the TB.
As far as looks go, yeah, the thing is butt-ugly, but I'm far more worried about how well it works than how it looks.
I think the biggest worry I had when I started thinking about this was indeed the water issue, however the actual problem that I have run into after driving it for a while, is that you have to clean the filter a lot more often.
One thing to remember about how much power I gained from switching to the FWI, is that in the process I switched to a pipe that was almost an inch larger than what I'd had.
Also, remember that our throttle bodies and intakes run directly over the cross-pipe on our exhaust. After a long run, the metal screen in my filter was hot enough to burn you, so the air going through had to be getting heated pretty good. Now with the rubber pipe, the intake is cool to the touch right up to the TB.
As far as looks go, yeah, the thing is butt-ugly, but I'm far more worried about how well it works than how it looks.
Ha... I'm not the only GP lost in here....
And yes like the others said the IMHO the FWI is nice, but there is a much longer distance for the air to travel and more material to get hot. Also the BTH (Behind The Headlight ©
) Gets alot better performance at the track when you pop out the headlight. Not to mention you can put an ice bag on the entire intake as well as the SC. Plastic does get hot. Every little bit helps i think...
However if you do choose the FWI, remember if you dont want to worry about killing the car when you hit a puddle you have to add the "sponge thing" (I forget what its called) some where along the tube. This in my eyes is a huge restriction.
And yes like the others said the IMHO the FWI is nice, but there is a much longer distance for the air to travel and more material to get hot. Also the BTH (Behind The Headlight ©
However if you do choose the FWI, remember if you dont want to worry about killing the car when you hit a puddle you have to add the "sponge thing" (I forget what its called) some where along the tube. This in my eyes is a huge restriction.
Originally Posted by Lou305sr
Not to mention you can put an ice bag on the entire intake as well as the SC. Plastic does get hot. Every little bit helps i think...
Shawn
Originally Posted by dbtk2
Originally Posted by Lou305sr
Not to mention you can put an ice bag on the entire intake as well as the SC. Plastic does get hot. Every little bit helps i think...
Shawn
Saddly hood up or not, my cars engine bay will not be cool enough to touch in less than an hour after a long drive. Is it a Bonn Vs GP temp thing :?:
Originally Posted by Lou305sr
Originally Posted by dbtk2
Originally Posted by Lou305sr
Not to mention you can put an ice bag on the entire intake as well as the SC. Plastic does get hot. Every little bit helps i think...
Shawn
Saddly hood up or not, my cars engine bay will not be cool enough to touch in less than an hour after a long drive. Is it a Bonn Vs GP temp thing :?:
Shawn
Must have to do with the air in the blower (as for it being ported or not)... My GTP is not near having the mods to running the times in your sig, just a couple of base boltons, yet I do have an undrilled 160 degree thermostat, and the car is keeping cooler than it was before obviously.
What I'm getting at is that for cars with out sufficient "ideal" modifications, or some one just starting to mod their cars the temp can be a bigger problem. Since this person is asking about which intake to get they sound like they are in the begining stages of bolt-ons. And thus woul not have something like a ported supercharger, IC, or coated headers.
What I'm getting at is that for cars with out sufficient "ideal" modifications, or some one just starting to mod their cars the temp can be a bigger problem. Since this person is asking about which intake to get they sound like they are in the begining stages of bolt-ons. And thus woul not have something like a ported supercharger, IC, or coated headers.
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a good thing to get rid of heat in the engine bay is to use ducting that begins under the front of the car and blows over the SC and another that goes into the intake. Ask Bill about his setup.
Originally Posted by macho_mike21
a good thing to get rid of heat in the engine bay is to use ducting that begins under the front of the car and blows over the SC and another that goes into the intake. Ask Bill about his setup.
Who is bill? I want to know more about this.
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Originally Posted by Lou305sr
What I'm getting at is that for cars with out sufficient "ideal" modifications, or some one just starting to mod their cars the temp can be a bigger problem. Since this person is asking about which intake to get they sound like they are in the begining stages of bolt-ons. And thus woul not have something like a ported supercharger, IC, or coated headers
Originally Posted by Lou305sr
Must have to do with the air in the blower (as for it being ported or not)... My GTP is not near having the mods to running the times in your sig, just a couple of base boltons, yet I do have an undrilled 160 degree thermostat, and the car is keeping cooler than it was before obviously.
What I'm getting at is that for cars with out sufficient "ideal" modifications, or some one just starting to mod their cars the temp can be a bigger problem. Since this person is asking about which intake to get they sound like they are in the begining stages of bolt-ons. And thus woul not have something like a ported supercharger, IC, or coated headers.
What I'm getting at is that for cars with out sufficient "ideal" modifications, or some one just starting to mod their cars the temp can be a bigger problem. Since this person is asking about which intake to get they sound like they are in the begining stages of bolt-ons. And thus woul not have something like a ported supercharger, IC, or coated headers.
An insulated CAI is going to be your best option for performance as far as temperature and flow is concerned. If insulated properly it should keep intake air temps within a few degrees of ambient and ice isn't gonna do you much good.
The heat resistant mods we have the GTP do help a lot, as I would hope otherwise they would've been kinda pointless, but it is basically the same for a L67 without these mods.
Shawn


