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Old 06-21-2004, 12:58 AM   #1
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I didn't beat my PB as I was hoping too to try and stay ahead of rogue.. but I came close and discovered some things..

I went to Lapeer, which after going, I won't be going back.. no burnouts for FWD and just overall crummy track IMO.. but results are results.. I killed a few Mustang GT'* though.

Old PB run at Norwalk with only a 3.25 and VS Camshaft:
60' - 2.127
330 - 5.978
1/8 - 9.195
mph-76.78
1k - 11.935
1/4 - 14.22
mph - 97.91

Not too shabby in my book for a 4,000lb car.

At lapeer, changes to the car from previous is only SLP headers !cat:

60' - 2.252
330 - n/a
1/8 - 9.360
mph - 79.37 (2.5mph gain!)
1/4 - 14.273
mph - 98.06 (small gain, have 2-3KR at the bottom of third)

My 1/8 trap was lower (worse 60') however I made more power to that point with the higher MPH, in my scans i have no knock at all through the 1/8th, after that I lose about 2-3 degrees of timing towards the end I think accounting for the loss in MPH/ET.

After this run I put DR'* on and ran worse, worse 60'* and slower MPH / ET'*. Grip was horrible, no track prep at all.

At any rate, if Rogue is the second fastest 2K+ SSEi, then I'm on him in third, as I too feel my results do not echo the car'* ability

I may try another track in current trim however the next runs will probably be at norwalk in august with an INTENSE PCM and a 3.0.

Just incase anyone is curious, my shifts were at 5453 out of first, and 5720 out of second *holding it in second gear to 96mph*.. I will drop ET by simply using the powerband of the cam with the new PCM

WHEW, long post, look for TWO mid/high 13 second SSEi'* before the season is over!
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awesome news! That is pretty neat that you can get those times with only two mods...Have you considered a CAI and free flowing muffler?

Rockers are a nono with the cam correct?
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Rockers are a nono with the cam correct?
Only high ratio rockers. You'll get too much lift.
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Nice job! What octane were you running? You get an INTENSE PCM and that will help you a bunch. Did you disconnect your wheel speed sensors in the front before running? If not, tq mgmt was killing you.

Good luck on the quest for 13'*....
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Thanks for the props guys

Rogue, Yes I disconnected the speed sensors for the runs. Car felt great for the 1/8th but did feel a little sluggish on the rest of 1320. Shifting out of first at the stock shift point lands me in second at something like 3800 rpm'*, that'* a long second gear pull! Can't wait to get it up to around 4600 or so.

Octane was mobil pump 93. On the street I was showing no KR the previous day so I didn't make any changes. My scans at the track showed some getting there, must have been the hot lapping as I started racing right after I got there.

Stock TSTAT as well. I do have a K&N 9" cone, however I run it open, no CAI for it yet.. I haven't gotten around to building one for it. I think I have the power to hit a 13 on a better track with better grip now. However I'm going for further than that with the PCM/3.0. 02'* were in the 910 range.

1.7 rockers can be used with the VS, however, I suggest simply getting a larger cam.
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Not bad at all, considering all you were up against.

Let'* get that PCM in there and you and Todd can have a fun battle at the Nationals in August. It'* going to be nice having several SSEi'* there...

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yeah, get the fast cars to represent us Bonnies.
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That'* cool Man, you should most definitly be in the 13'* with 100octane, some cold air and a PCM. You 2 can have a nice little duel, too bad I won't quite be able to keep up, no cam for me for a while.

Hoping I can make it to Nationals myself.
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Scott, I fully intend on getting a PCM through you before Nationals! I look forward to battling back and forth with Todd *all in good fun of course, but it'* fun to have some direct competition*

I WAS curious however if a 'performance shift' mode can be implimented on the ssei even though there is no dash light. On normal days I LIKE the slow smooth shifts and very 'safe' operation of the transmission. However, sometimes I need the all out wreckless hard shifts, no torque management, high rpm shift points that the PCM can supply... If this is possible to work out, that would be fantastic, if not, no biggie really.

I'll contact you on specifics as the time approaches

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That'* cool Man, you should most definitly be in the 13'* with 100octane, some cold air and a PCM. You 2 can have a nice little duel, too bad I won't quite be able to keep up, no cam for me for a while.
Thanks TaylorD I think not having the KR would have gotten me close for sure. however, I was never a fan of race gas :P I always run my car in as close to street conditions as I can. I'm not into running a setup/time at the track and feeling the power that I can't feel in normal day operations but if it comes down to a few hundreths, race as it is! hehe. My 02'* are around 905/910. it could use a slight bit more fuel and I'm sure that KR would be virtually nill. I have plans for a CAI in the works. In my previous testing I never really found much of a difference with or without one.. but it'* worth a shot and isn't much $$ to build.

Take care and thanks for the replies everyone
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Thanks TaylorD I always run my car in as close to street conditions as I can. I'm not into running a setup/time at the track and feeling the power that I can't feel in normal day operations
I agree with you on that, I for one have a very heavy stereo setup in my ssei and lots of dynamat, not to mention and extra yellow top all the way in the back corner of the trunk. Not helping what distrubiton at all, Don't really care, I like to run my car pretty much just like I do anyother day on the street, BUT I will get some 100 in there before every track date, I can feel the power gained and can't deny myself.

Good luck getting into the 13'*, I will be there myself some day but not till next year.
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