Question? I want to rebuild to a series two - Page 2 - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning Talk about modifications, or anything else associated with performance enhancements. Have a new idea for performance/reliability? Post it here. No idea is stupid! (please use Detailing and Appearance for cosmetic ideas)

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-03-2006, 11:15 PM   #11
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ft. Jennings Ohio
Posts: 63
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
bonniville_ssei is on a distinguished road
Default

I Was allways told the series two non supercharged car was just as fast as a series one supercharged car. This Is why I want a series two motor.
bonniville_ssei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2006, 11:18 PM   #12
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 19,756
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
1993 SLE is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonniville_ssei
I Was allways told the series two non supercharged car was just as fast as a series one supercharged car. This Is why I want a series two motor.
incorrect...

Series One SC
the 92-93 is rated at 205
the 94-95 is rated at 225

Series Two NA
95+ is rated at 205

Series II SC
96+ is rated at 240

what is improtant here.....a 92-93 Series I SC will KILL a Series II NA, even they are rated at the same HP.....its the untold number the toruqe....that the Series I delelops it lower than the Series II
1993 SLE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2006, 11:22 PM   #13
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ft. Jennings Ohio
Posts: 63
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
bonniville_ssei is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow then what sould I do? To rebuild My motor.
bonniville_ssei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2006, 11:28 PM   #14
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 19,756
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
1993 SLE is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonniville_ssei
Wow then what sould I do? To rebuild My motor.
well.......

www.seriesoneperformance.com ....anything on there you can use

remember everything available for the Series II is avaiable for the Series I excpet the I/C

you can port the SC outlet, LIM and the Exhaust Mainis, for some free gains....the only thing will need is some down time with the car....
1993 SLE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2006, 03:03 AM   #15
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 857
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Bugsi is on a distinguished road
Default

I just want to make the observation here that the people who replied have already answered your question. You had that "I want to make my Series 1 into a Series 2, how do I do that?" question, to which the answers are: No, you can't, and you should keep your Series 1 SC because it will blow the doors off a Series 2 NA. No, you can't swap the heads from a Series 2 onto your Series 1. Just keep your Series 1. You can do a pulley and an intake, high flow cat, headers and muffler, port your manifolds and eat ricers for lunch. If you want a Series 2 SC, the best way to do it is to go buy a Bonneville with a Series 2 SC.

I don't want to sound rude, but the answers are already there.
Bugsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2006, 03:50 AM   #16
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

Why are we talking about rebuilding at all? What'* wrong with yours? What'* the compression?

L67'* don't need rebuilding until about 250k miles.
willwren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2006, 01:44 PM   #17
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hanoverpark/palatine IL, wrenchin' and cursin'
Posts: 247
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Turbocharged400sbc is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Question? I want to rebuild to a series two

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonniville_ssei
whats up everyone? I've got a few questions. First, I have a 1993 Bonneville SSEI or series one motor. I want to rebuild it to a series two motor. I have heard this is possible by switching the heads. Is this correct?
regardless of what anyone says you can put the SII heads and top end on a SI short block...it is involved however...and will probably be another year before i get it sorted out and running...but in the end you end up with a SI/SII hybrid that is mechanically superior to either engine alone...especially when ya start to talk stroker crankshafts...tall deck blocks (SI) have advantages that the later SII short deck/short rod short blocks...

the ancillary advantage is that the SII heads have larger valves more refined ports and combustion chamber design that make it worthwile to try to use on the SI shortblock...and if everything works out you could put the SII L67/M90 top end onto the SI shortblock using intake spacers...

a gentleman in Austraila and i are currently the only ones working on this that i know of...and the going is slow...even with me having two SI and one SII engine to work with

more info here: http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/...pic.php?t=1318

most of my newer info is in a post on an Holden Invite only forum run by Locksmiff

For now i would just suggest building up your SI and making more power from it...or ya can drop an L67 into the back of your bonnie
Turbocharged400sbc is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
series one VS series two? rogers General GM Chat 11 04-18-2007 10:22 AM
I want to rebuild my tranny! spidey3479 1987-1991 4 08-15-2006 02:05 PM
I want it! I want it! I want it! I want it! GOT IT!!!!! MOS95B Lounge 28 02-13-2006 03:38 PM
DrJay's Performance rebuild...PART TWO! DrJay Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 22 12-27-2004 03:59 AM
Opinions wanted - '87 Series I rebuild or get new engine ? rocketman 1987-1991 14 10-31-2003 09:18 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:55 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.