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Old 08-08-2005, 02:12 PM   #1
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Okay, here goes....

If it were mechanically/economically feasable, how much of a performance gain would it bee to rig up a system to feed the engine pure oxygen? Don't know what made me think of this, but since the only truely flammable part of air is the oxygen, I guessed it could potentially be a benefit at the track....
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More potent than nitrous...
You'd have to match it with a TON of fuel.

When it expands from stored liquid, it'd get nice and cold, timing galore.

You'd need a nice large heavy tank to store it. And that would supply maybe a couple track runs, if that. You'd need special calibration of the PCM so it would know how to interepret the MAF signal correctly.

Expensive when it'* all said and done.

EDIT: Well, how different would it be from having to store hydrogen in a hydrogen powered car?
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I was thinking more along the lines of like a home oxygen tank. But for all I know, they store it in liquid form also....

Like I said, pure brainstorming. Like I intended to imply, no research.....

But, more potent than nitrous??? Wow.....
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I was thinking liquid because you'd need a lot to feed the engine just that, a home tank would run out very quickly.

Nitrous is nitrogen and oxygen, same idea as yours, but as a supplement to add more oxygen to atmosperic air.
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More potent than nitrous...
You'd have to match it with a TON of fuel.

When it expands from stored liquid, it'd get nice and cold, timing galore.

You'd need a nice large heavy tank to store it. And that would supply maybe a couple track runs, if that. You'd need special calibration of the PCM so it would know how to interepret the MAF signal correctly.

Expensive when it'* all said and done.

EDIT: Well, how different would it be from having to store hydrogen in a hydrogen powered car?
actually, it'd be easier than hydrogen, because it'* larger... meaning you don't have to worry about the leaking issues that you do with H2...
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With the hydrogen, typical concepts use a brick of charcoal or ceramic or something that hydrogen bonds to. The brick is heated and hydrogen is released.

...or something like that...
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it would be very easy to blow up the engine. There isnt even 10% oxygen in the air, if you doubled it you would have to double the amount of fuel.
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I thuoght o2 was 20ish % of hte atmosphere?

If you blew a small stream before the MAF it might be able to adapt enough.
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Interesting idea and before the MAF sounds like a good idea, but since it is pure O2, the content would probably throw the MAF out of wack, since the calculation is based on normal atmospheric content. Even a small increase in the O2 content should be noticeable but how you would modulate that to the fuel needed would be an interesting problem, although a similar setup to NOS would likely work. The scary part is pure O2 makes all kinds of things flamable, not a good thing. I know many years ago they experimented with force feeding dragsters with compressed air, but the volume required, and likely the rules, doomed that experiment.
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I think the atmosphere is like 16% O2. Sounds to me like you'd be playing with fire unless your PCM were programmed for it. Even so, I don't think I'd want to drive around with a bottle of compressed oxygen in the trunk. I'd think it would be like a bomb in a rear end accident.
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