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Old 06-06-2007, 09:15 AM   #11
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I'd look over the security as mentioned..

Then have a friend test the soleniod wire for power when you touch the key. If so.. have that friend hold the key to on...while you beat the starter wtih a hammer.
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did u do a security relearn procedure with the new intense pcm?
no, it was not a new PCM, I shouldn't have to

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Then have a friend test the soleniod wire for power when you touch the key. If so.. have that friend hold the key to on...while you beat the starter wtih a hammer.
I stated that I tested that wire for power in the original post, but I didnt word it solenoid wire because I didnt know it was called that.
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Everything else work? Fuel pump prime? Whack that starter while cranking!
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fuel pump primes.

only reason I didnt wack the starter was because there was no juice going to it, so I figured that wouldnt help.

the motor still turns over by hand so I'm not really worried about a mechanical problem.

keep throwing ideas, I will try them all tonight
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Then have a friend test the soleniod wire for power when you touch the key. If so.. have that friend hold the key to on...while you beat the starter wtih a hammer.
I stated that I tested that wire for power in the original post, but I didnt word it solenoid wire because I didnt know it was called that.
You did state that you tested it.. did you test it with someone holding the key? I wanted to make sure they key was being held.

If that'* the case..then you aren't getting power to the starter via the soleniod wire to tell it to crank over. Check fuses and security system as the culprits keeping power from making it.
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You did state that you tested it.. did you test it with someone holding the key? I wanted to make sure they key was being held.

If that'* the case..then you aren't getting power to the starter via the soleniod wire to tell it to crank over. Check fuses and security system as the culprits keeping power from making it.
yes.

I checked all fuses under the hood and under the seat. I didnt test any relays. I'm not sure how to diagnose the security problem on 00+
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I'm not sure how to diagnose the security problem on 00+


Why not? Pull out the manual and walk through the trouble shooter bud.
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I dont have a 00 FSM yet and I have not re-installed the digital service manual since I rebooted my computer.
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I'll take a look and see what it says to aim for...

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Update:

Back when Silverbullet had his stalling issue..the dealer found fuse 19 under the hood to have poor connections.

Andrew and I traced things around and checked circuits. Then fired the starter by jumping the battery power to the soleniod. It cranked.

Backed up the circuit to the start relay in the underhood fuseblock. There was no power being supplied to pass through the relay. Checked the Start circuit breaker it also has no power being supplied. Looked up Paul'* post and notice MarkWB specifically mentions that fuse 19 powers ign and start relays among other items.

Checked fuse 19..no power at either side.

Andrew is removing the underhood fuse block to find out why this has no power from the battery supply that feeds the fuse block. Other items in the fuse block do have power.
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