PCM Learning related to pulley swap
Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by BillBoost37
You may be able to force learn it by killing power to the car for 30 min.
If it needs to relearn idle..then why can't we use that same thing to force a learn on the pulley size?
If it needs to relearn idle..then why can't we use that same thing to force a learn on the pulley size?

Originally Posted by willwren
I'll page him. Yes, Mr. Rogue, 8-ball driver, former gearhead.....has a BC pager. Watch this:
A BC pager? Interesting, how does that work?
I go outside and yell O-**** in the general direction of Westerville Ohio. If I'm off a little in direction, the page sometimes gets intercepted in MN, and Haro comes in here asking WTF? Then I have to re-page.
I PM'd Rogue. He is the best person to answer this one.
I PM'd Rogue. He is the best person to answer this one.
Originally Posted by willwren
I go outside and yell O-***^ in the general direction of Westerville Ohio. If I'm off a little in direction, the page sometimes gets intercepted in MN, and Haro comes in here asking WTF? Then I have to re-page.
I PM'd Rogue. He is the best person to answer this one.
I PM'd Rogue. He is the best person to answer this one.

Ask a stupid question......
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The car should be able to take advantage of the pulley immediately. It is after all just more boost. However in the case of the 3.0 you may run into two problems. The first is that you may be getting KR which is is pulling timing and negating whatever power your getting from more boost. The second is that at the 3.0 inch pulley size you are at the limit of stock injectors. You may not be getting the fueling you need to go with the extra boost. 42.5'* are recommended at the 3.0 pulley size.
Without a proper scan and listing of injector pulse widths, or KR or Timing thought this is all just conjecture.
Without a proper scan and listing of injector pulse widths, or KR or Timing thought this is all just conjecture.
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Also, it is my personal opinion (and experience) that water injection is not worth the tuning hassle to get right and even it it does work by reducing cylinder temps and controlling kr, anything that displaces air and fuel is only hurting the cars ability to make power. I know there are some that swear by it but we have tried it on a few cars here and at the dyno it showed we lost horsepower even though we negated all the KR we were seeing.
If you want to get rid of KR then free up the motors ability to breathe not drown it in water.
Just my thoughts.
If you want to get rid of KR then free up the motors ability to breathe not drown it in water.
Just my thoughts.
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Originally Posted by Paul
Does the PCM have to re-learn fuel / air mixtures etc after a pulley swap and if so how long does the learning curve take?





