Nitrogen in my tires
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yup cost $20.00 to have all four tires filled with Nitrogen. http://www.getnitrogen.org/ It'* not supposed to heat up and expand like air. Believe it or not I notice a slightly better ride over regular air. Should help with fuel mileage as well but who knows. From what i read i have 97.999999 percent in my tires. I dunno. lighter is faster right.
It won't do anything for you. It'* somewhat of a scam. It has less moisture content, but frankly, in a daily driver or occasional track car, it'* of no benefit whatsoever.
Please try a search on nitrogen.
Please try a search on nitrogen.
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I likely won't find out this Friday I'm heading to Buffalo tomorrow morning.. One of my buyers is trying to back out of a contract and half of his units have already produced and readied for shipping.... So depending on how thursday goes I might not get back untill friday evening.
But I know for a fact that I can mix air with the Nitrogen if need be I'm looking for a small tank to have filled with Nitrogen for matters like that tho.
But I know for a fact that I can mix air with the Nitrogen if need be I'm looking for a small tank to have filled with Nitrogen for matters like that tho.
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Originally Posted by willwren
It won't do anything for you. It'* somewhat of a scam. It has less moisture content, but frankly, in a daily driver or occasional track car, it'* of no benefit whatsoever.
Please try a search on nitrogen.
Please try a search on nitrogen.
Air is ~80% nitrogen.
The wild card for expansion with heat is water (humidity) of the air used to inflate the tire. If a good air drier is used there is no difference in performance of air vs. nitrogen.
High end race teams will use nitrogen because liquid nitrogen takes up less space in the pits than a compressor and drier.
The wild card for expansion with heat is water (humidity) of the air used to inflate the tire. If a good air drier is used there is no difference in performance of air vs. nitrogen.
High end race teams will use nitrogen because liquid nitrogen takes up less space in the pits than a compressor and drier.
Your tires will not expand or contract with compressed air by any measurable or detectable amount.
It will make no difference.
http://www.bargaineering.com/article...*-mileage.html
It will make no difference.
http://www.bargaineering.com/article...*-mileage.html
The rate of effusion of a gas is related to the inverse of the square root of the molecular mass of its representative particle. Provided I did the calculations correctly (which I may not have... it'* been 2 years since my last Chemistry course) Nitrogen only would effuse (leak) out of a tire 1.2% slower than an 80-20 mixture.
Here is a quote from the link Bill posted; it brushes over the general physics of the debate.
“N2 and air being gases, in the conditions we’re concerned with, will both act ideally (pv=nrt) and so will expand and contract to exactly the same volume at the same temperature. Even using Van Der Waal’* equation to correct for the ever-so-slight deviations from idealness you’d encounter at high tire temp, the difference is so small you probably couldn’t measure it.
Now you may get a difference based on the fact that nitrogen has a slightly higher heat capacity than oxygen (it will reach a slightly lower temperature than oxygen if exposed to the same amount of heat), but the difference is very small, about 3 per cent, and since air is ~78% n2 to begin with, the final difference will be vanishingly small.
Also, someone mentioned that n2 is three times larger than normal air, well, since normal air is, again, 78% n2, that doesnt’ really make sense. It is larger than o2 (which takes up the remaining 22% minus some change), but again, only by a few per cent.”
“N2 and air being gases, in the conditions we’re concerned with, will both act ideally (pv=nrt) and so will expand and contract to exactly the same volume at the same temperature. Even using Van Der Waal’* equation to correct for the ever-so-slight deviations from idealness you’d encounter at high tire temp, the difference is so small you probably couldn’t measure it.
Now you may get a difference based on the fact that nitrogen has a slightly higher heat capacity than oxygen (it will reach a slightly lower temperature than oxygen if exposed to the same amount of heat), but the difference is very small, about 3 per cent, and since air is ~78% n2 to begin with, the final difference will be vanishingly small.
Also, someone mentioned that n2 is three times larger than normal air, well, since normal air is, again, 78% n2, that doesnt’ really make sense. It is larger than o2 (which takes up the remaining 22% minus some change), but again, only by a few per cent.”


