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Old 02-13-2006, 07:01 PM   #11
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i did 14.6 @ 96mph with a 2.1 on 60 foot with street tire.
no way you can get 14.3,not with just 2.1 ( i mean with your setup)
no additive.
Remember, he is a lightwieght. You're car wieghs 3900lb i'm guessing, his is prolly 3600lbs. .1 tenth per 100lbs, and he gets a 14.3 exactly.
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i did 14.6 @ 96mph with a 2.1 on 60 foot with street tire.
no way you can get 14.3,not with just 2.1 ( i mean with your setup)
no additive.
Remember, he is a lightwieght. You're car wieghs 3900lb i'm guessing, his is prolly 3600lbs. .1 tenth per 100lbs, and he gets a 14.3 exactly.
That'* the first time I've heard a 3600lb car called a lightweight.

Taylora, if you want an idea for how fast your car will go with whatever mods you do, compare it to a 97-02 GTP. The 96-99 SSEi'* are only a tad bit slower than the last gen GTP.
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i did 14.6 @ 96mph with a 2.1 on 60 foot with street tire.
no way you can get 14.3,not with just 2.1 ( i mean with your setup)
no additive.
Remember, he is a lightwieght. You're car wieghs 3900lb i'm guessing, his is prolly 3600lbs. .1 tenth per 100lbs, and he gets a 14.3 exactly.
That'* the first time I've heard a 3600lb car called a lightweight.

Taylora, if you want an idea for how fast your car will go with whatever mods you do, compare it to a 97-02 GTP. The 96-99 SSEi'* are only a tad bit slower than the last gen GTP.
IIRC the Bonne is .2-.4 tenths slower than the W body
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why no flowmaster?
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Hmm, the ones I run against at the track all run 14.9-15.1 stock, just like the SSEi'*. The 96-99 SSEi'* are only ~200lb heavier than the GTP'*.
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Hmm, the ones I run against at the track all run 14.9-15.1 stock, just like the SSEi'*. The 96-99 SSEi'* are only ~200lb heavier than the GTP'*.
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If you have a ’97 to ’02 GTP or GS, your car will run about 14.8 in the quarter mile in stock form. There are lots of variables here, but this is a realistic average based on our experiences. If you have an SSEi, your car will be about one second slower. The Bonneville’* are only a few hundred pounds heavier, but they are slower for several other reasons too:

additional weight (several hundred pounds)
poor weight distribution for drag racing (things like the battery in the back seat, aluminum hood, aluminum control arms and aluminum front bumper all work to reduce the percentage of weight on the front tires, resulting in less traction during acceleration)
larger front brakes (more rotating mass reduces power put to the ground)
larger tires and wheels (increased rotating mass takes more power to accelerate)
restrictive PCM (much more aggressive traction control system cannot be overridden by simply pulling a fuse; PCM will actually retard ignition timing if you try to power-brake the car)
no Performance Shift function (so shift points are lower and shifts are slower)
no air opening behind the headlight means that removing the headlight won’t give you any cold air
now that is for a 00+ so make the correct adjustements for the 97-99 Bonneville
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i did 14.6 @ 96mph with a 2.1 on 60 foot with street tire.
no way you can get 14.3,not with just 2.1 ( i mean with your setup)
no additive.
Remember, he is a lightwieght. You're car wieghs 3900lb i'm guessing, his is prolly 3600lbs. .1 tenth per 100lbs, and he gets a 14.3 exactly.
I know, but i can get 2.1 on street tire and still keep 95-96 mph wich his about the same speed he got, cant see how he can be faster than me without ending with faster mph?. If he accelerate faster he should get 97mph at least to get 14.3
and with better traction his speed will decrease.

i raced a '04 GP comp G with 3.4 pulley, rocker 1.9 , headers downpipe(stock pcm) he ended with 14.3 @99.5 mph with a 2.3 lauch. thats a 13.8 13,9 with a 2.1 launch.

i was in front of him till end of 1st gear. with [email protected] 2.192 launch.

i agree he can get 14.3, but not with a 2.1 launch.
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My high 60' aren't from spinning tires though. I have to be conservative from the start while rolling on the throttle becaues of the poor track prep, and even then, the tires break loose from a 20mph roll on the track surface. That'* why I have a low trap speed as well as a high 60' for the times I run. With the track prep they usually have at the track, if I was any harder on the throttle I'd spin through most of first gear and end up running something like 14.7 @ 95, which I did on a run with a mid 2.3sec 60'.

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i raced a '04 GP comp G
Believe it or not a Comp G wieghs 3700lbs. More than a 96-99 SSEi.
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I did a [email protected] with a 2.24 60', stock no track prep. If I get my 60' down to 2.1, I would be in the 14.3 range
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