I think they all make a few different designs. Dynamax ultra flows are straight through stainless. They got to be loud. Im just trying to figure out how loud.

Flowmaster and magnaflow are essentially the same thing. You can see thru them both if you want Magnaflow is smoother, and flowmaster is more "muscular" i guess in sound.

Dynomax is totally different. It seemed to get quieter at higher revs on Allmachtiges car.

I guess I just like "muscular".

I have a clip of my stock exhaust but I have no way to host it.. Someone would be more than welcome to host it for me if they want to. *hint hint* If interested PM me.

well I went to the exhaust shop to have them look at the car themselves.. they want $100 JUST to install the muffler nothing else.. This is with the Borla'*. So it'd run me a total of around $350 for everything. I don't know if I want to go through with it or not. What do you guys think? The borla'* will actually be additional labor beccause they're center-in center-out, magnaflows are offset-in center-out. which is what my car is. Is it worth it to only change the mufflers and leave the pipes the way that they are? INput please. The borla muffler is 2.25", my exhaust now is 2" so they said they'd need to make an adapter for $50 to make it work right but they dont' recommend that because it might 'leak.' I don't know what to do.. I want borlas but the Magnaflows are more of a dirrect fit.

adapters are like $3.........$50 is crazy... i have a 2.25 to 2.5 adapter on my car....bought it at mills fleet farm!

Mufflers shops have become expensive because most people cant deal with exhaust themself, so they got you over a barrel. I believe they will weld most of the seams rather than clamp them like most doityourselfer would have to do.
You were going to supply the mufflers ?
Cant you find the right fit Borlas ?
50 for two adapters is crazy.
Upgrades are expensive. Its a sellers market.

I was going to buy the mufflers myself. The mufflers I had shown them were offset-in center-out but they told me they wouldn't work. They're also only 1/4" shorter than the stock muffler so basically tehy have to only cut the pipe, take the old muffler out, and weld the new one in.. they wouldn't even have to bend any pipes. To me this is like a $30 job.. anyway, I"ve been told by the exhaust shops too that by just changing the mufflers the car probably won't sound any different at all than it does now, but the stock mufflers seem restrictive and the aftermarket ones are free-flowing. Do you 2000+ owners see a potential for better sound by just replacing the mufflers? I"m afraid of this being a waste of money!


By the way, this same place quoted me just a little over $1,000 to put new struts on!, OR $394 for just labor if I buy my own struts.

Well C/D if you were closer Id help you out. You need to find another shop. It will sound better . Like I said earlier 2 each is going to add up. Im sure you want to find the right style mufflers so they fit right. You could probably get a shop to cut and clamp them cheaper than welding. They just rust faster where they overlap + 4 clamps. Dont know what to tell you. Theres no such thing as a 30 dollar job.

It'd be nice though. lol. I mean for how much work they actually do and how long it'd take (probably half an hour to an hour) $100 is a lot for just the labor. I'll probably just take it to my neighbor, he does this kind of work all the time and he seems to do pretty good work. He lives a whole quarter of a mile away so it'd be convenient too.

One last thing that somebody has mentioned is that with aftermarket mufflers I'm going to probably have drone on the highway, but isn't that what the resonator is there for, to eliminate this drone on the highway? I do almost all highway driving so a drone I wouldn't want to put up with all the time, it'd be annoying. wish other people had done this exhaust thing already so I'd have some other cars to listen to.. No 2000+ owners have done it though. :(