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Old 08-10-2010, 11:45 PM   #11
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Never went to the dyno. But I believe Bill said he figures about 375. With higher boost your going to need larger injectors. Once I got to a 3.1" pulley the stock were no longer big enough.
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what are the stock ones on that supercharged motor, aren't they 32 or 42#?
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32, I have 42.5 on my engine now.
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:17 AM   #14
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I would not get any gaskets from ZZP. My experience has been poor fitment and leaking. Doing the job twice isn't something I enjoy. Dealer/Fel Pro can be the best way to go.

105# Crowe Cam springs (NOT Comp Cam)
S1X or XP cam
LS retainers from Intense
Dealer/Fel Pro for valve cover, LIM (get grommets too)
Font cover/oil pan/rear cover gaskets, cheapest is Fel Pro'* "lower conversion kit" it is cheaper than an oil pan gasket on it'* own. And you get tons of gaskets.
Valve seals from ZZP
Keep stock lifters they have the best preload available.
Stock pushrods and rockers will be fine as well. This is a great money saving area.
Rocker bolts, get resusable. Intense/ZZP
Cam and crank bolt you can reuse. Everyone says they are TTY and they are, but they way they do their job, just reuse them. I never buy new bolts for crank or cam.
New stock timing set with dampener.
Belts, when it comes time go to Napa and buy the Gates belts. Best belts I've ever seen, they look like traction tape.
Have some liquid teflon goop on hand for the LIM and front cover bolts.

In your pm you mentioned a 2.6" pulley. Start off much bigger, think 3.8 or larger for your high compression L36 build we spoke about. Keep in mind that the faster you turn the supercharger the more heat you pump into the cylinder. You want to get the most air while getting the coolest air you can. There is a balance to all things. Having a super small pulley would hurt reliability.

Stock injectors for an L67 are 33#, on a standard L67 engine, a Gen 3 you run out of injector typically around a 3.0" pulley and on a Gen V at 3.2". That'* where the average population runs out. Don't ever rely on the averages. You need to scan and tune constantly because you plan to build this on an L36 higher compression lower end. This means you will have much more power than a low compression L67.
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Stock lifters from my n/a or from the supercharged engine? And that means I scratch out the yella terra package? And with the intercooler I should be able to go down too a 3.6 to start than tune from there. What kind of power am I looking at with all this. By the way the intercooler is the zzp basic one. And I'm not sure if I mentioned but I am porting and polishing and matching both the supercharger and lim. One other question is the throttle body. Should touch this. And I don't think my engine has a maf like earlier years since it'* the first year for the aeries 2
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Have you considered looking around for other intercooling options vs the ZZP ones? There are a few guys making phenolic and a local buddy recently had someone make him an amazing looking aluminum one as well. Bar and plate which should be more efficient. Just sayin...

Lifters, pushrods and rockers in the L36 and L67 are identical. All the same stuff. Kinda cool huh? When I was first modding, I was talking to Todd at Intense and I was shocked at how much stuff I planned to do and didn't need to. Leaves a lot more money open for stuff that can add more power.
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So the rocker arms and such would be no performance gain? Hmm. Intersteing hoe everything is the same. Are there any other companies that make intercoolers? Otherwise I'll just build my own at school
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Is there anything I should do with the throttle body to gain a bit more? I just rather do things right the first time than go back and add stuff haha. What sorta power am I looking at with all this?
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If you want better, go Gen V charger and N* TB. It'* a great setup.
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Well I'm trying to reach around 375 hp. If I can't then o well, because I'm getting a full */c engine from a a buck and trans for free... That left me with more cash to do other mods for now.
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