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Old 07-16-2003, 11:05 PM   #21
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Cooler because of the extra cooler, not because they're stacked.

I just had my 93 flushed, but I have alot fewer miles on it than you do. If you're having no MAJOR trans problems, I'd suggest the flush. I haven't heard of one yet that caused a problem, but there'* a first time for everything, right?

Just don't use synthetic ATF in an older (high miles) trans.
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ok, i'll check the fluid and see if its red, then i'll take it to my ex neighbors shop and see what he thinks, if he says "go" i'll go the dealership and take the chance.
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why not suggest using synthetic? is this something i should be telling the service dept or mechanic?

i haven't checked the color yet but hopfully i'll look at her tomarrow or something.
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why not suggest using synthetic? is this something i should be telling the service dept or mechanic?

i haven't checked the color yet but hopfully i'll look at her tomarrow or something.
As far as I've heard.. synthetic ATF is bad cause it slips too much and will then wear the tranny out more..
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why not suggest using synthetic? is this something i should be telling the service dept or mechanic?

i haven't checked the color yet but hopfully i'll look at her tomarrow or something.
As far as I've heard.. synthetic ATF is bad cause it slips too much and will then wear the tranny out more..
It'* not that'* it is more slippier that'* the problem here. It'* the fact the high mileage transmission has varnish buildup that when combined with a thinner fluid will cause the clutches to slip.

For more info on Amsoil'* Synthetic ATF Fluid keep reading:

Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid

Improves fuel efficiency, reduces transmission temperatures and increases transmission life. Provides unsurpassed thermal stability and up to five times the service life of conventional ATFs. Delivers maximum protection for towing and other severe-duty applications. Product Code: ATF

For DEXRONIII, MERCON, Ford M2C138-CJ, Ford M2C166-H and Chrysler ATF Plus, MS-7176B Applications.

Recommended for use in applications requiring Honda Z-1 transmission fluids.

Use where ATF is recommended in Mobile or Stationary Hydraulic and Power Steering units.

Recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:

GM Dexron II, Dexron III
Ford Mercon, Mercon V
Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4
Mitsubishi Diamond SP II & III
Allison C-3 & C-4 and TES-295
Caterpillar Powershift Transmission TO-2 & TO-3
Voith Commercial Transmissions
GM Strasbourg (European Imports) and Opel
Applications requiring Honda Z-1 transmission fluids

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

AMSOIL Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid exceeds the performance requirements for domestic and foreign automatic transmission fluid applications. AMSOIL ATF provides automatic transmissions, power steering units and hydraulic equipment with excellent lubricating protection and better performance over a wider temperature range than do conventional petroleum fluids.

Resists Oxidation and Thermal Degradation

AMSOIL ATF resists thermal and oxidative degradation up to three to five times longer than conventional transmission fluids do. It protects clutches, planetary gears, valves, pumps and seals from damaging sludge and varnish deposits. AMSOIL ATF helps prevent component overheating and ensures cooler, smoother transmission operation.

Provides Low Temperature Protection

AMSOIL ATF outperforms petroleum fluids in low temperature fluidity. In fact, AMSOIL ATF offers three times the cold temperature fluidity required by current automatic transmission fluid specifications. AMSOIL ATF provides easier starting, faster warm-ups, smoother shifting and improved fuel economy.

Anti-Wear Protection

AMSOIL ATF provides smooth shifting and long, trouble-free transmission life. In addition, the anti-wear additive package makes AMSOIL ATF an excellent lubricant in other hydraulic systems. In tests designed to measure wear characteristics under severe service and high pressure operating conditions, AMSOIL ATF far exceeds the requirements of hydraulic equipment manufacturers.

Extended Drain Intervals

AMSOIL ATF is formulated for extended drain intervals. Transmissions usually operate under severe service conditions. They are subjected to extensive idling, frequent short trips, cold temperature driving, sustained hot weather driving or trailer towing. When conventional transmission fluid is used, it should be changed every 15,000 to 30,000 miles. AMSOIL ATF should be changed at intervals up to three times longer than the recommendations of the vehicle manufacturer.



APPLICATIONS

AMSOIL Synthetics Automatic Transmission Fluid is completely compatible with other synthetic and petroleum automatic transmission fluids. AMSOIL ATF is a universal, multifunctional fluid and greatly reduces the need for specialized fluid inventories and the possibilities of misapplication.

SERVICE LIFE

AMSOIL ATF has an expected fluid life of three times the automatic transmission manufacturer'* recommendations. Drain intervals may be extended indefinitely when fluid analysis is used.

TYPICAL TECHNICAL PROPERTIES

AMSOIL 100% Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF)

Kinematic Viscosity @ 100C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
7.5

Kinematic Viscosity @ 40C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
36.0

Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270)
182

Noack Volatility, % weight loss (DIN 51581) 10.8

Flash Point C (F) (ASTM D 92) 222 (432)

Pour Point C (F) (ASTM D 97)
-56 (-69)

Four Ball Wear Test (ASTM D 4172B: 40 kg, 75C, 1200 rpm, 1 hour, Scar in mm) 0.40

Brookfield Viscosity (cP) -10C = 465

Brookfield Viscosity (cP) -20C = 1030

Brookfield Viscosity (cP) -30C = 2505

Brookfield Viscosity (cP) -40C = 7150
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It'* not that'* it is more slippier that'* the problem here. It'* the fact the high mileage transmission has varnish buildup that when combined with a thinner fluid will cause the clutches to slip.
Ah.. thanx Mighty Mouse for clearin it up
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ok, i checked it today after i drove it around a little bit, it was an orange, redish brownish kind of color.... not the color of new looking ATF for sure but then again i am fairly sure it hasnt ever been changed...
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what does everyone think about it?
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