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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Would it help to clamp the front springs to help with launching at the track?
I have a couple sets of spring clamps from my day with the Shelby Dodges (I used them to give myself an idea of what my Lebaron would look like lowered).
Basically a mod to be installed and removed while at the track.
Curious how this combined with the ELC trick would help.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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My thoughts (and extensive time spent on my suspension) is that the rear squat is what 'allows' the front to rise. That'* not really a good explanation, but with the rear tricked up, the front rise is alot less. I doubt it would make a significant difference, but it could be tested. You'd probably never see it in time slips, but comparing vids (same day, same patch of road) may show a change in rise.

Remember that the entire weight of the drivetrain is trying to hold the front down already, while the rear is left quite a bit more 'free'.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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I think that if you clamp the front down, more weight transfer will be pushed to the rear.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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x2 Lowering the front would help a lil' but you def. don't want it locked like the rear.
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Would this cause wheel hop?

Maybe I'll just have to resort to using them on the rear springs then.
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Something better (perhaps) for the rear springs may be coming soon. I've got a couple ideas. One of them is a quick-release bar for the rear suspension to lock it into the ELC TRICKED height for track runs. But the bar would have to have a TON (quite literally) of support welded to the subframe and control arm.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by willwren
Something better (perhaps) for the rear springs may be coming soon. I've got a couple ideas. One of them is a quick-release bar for the rear suspension to lock it into the ELC TRICKED height for track runs. But the bar would have to have a TON (quite literally) of support welded to the subframe and control arm.
Ingenious Literally, what'* taken you so long.
No, but literally, although it sounds simple, but requires more than just one simple weld, it'* kinda hard to believe that we haven't had anyone think of this yet.
Kinda like drag bars, but way different and for the daily driver.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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I've had it on the drawing board for almost two years. Since my first runs in the Zilla in '04. I knew the squat was costing me on my 60' times. INTENSE, in a way, sparked the idea. Wheelie bars were to extreme for me (I'm sortof in a different class than the demons they produce), but the 'uplock' bars would be far more practical, subtle, and easily installed at the track. Adjustable, too.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 01:16 AM
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rear air bags...$75 a piece. Easy to replace where coil springs were. Better ride than OEM at lower pressures. Just a thought.

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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Many of us have rear ELC, which is very easy to trick in the fully inflated/lifted rear position from the factory.

Big problem:

Air compresses under load.
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