Intercooler Pictures
#22
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hanoverpark/palatine IL, wrenchin' and cursin'
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey Rogue, just a thought
on our twin engine car when I put the turbocharger on the rear 3800 (LN3) I will be using the evaporator core from a tahoe/suburban in a TIG'd box to acto as our intercooler, it will be plummbed into the AC from the front engine (or we may reinstall the AC on the rear engine) with solenoid valves to switch refrigerant flow (from the indash evaporator/HVAC) and with a few extra ounces of r134a it will provide a real efficient means of IC the turbo'd 3800 for short periods of time (below ambient cooling ability) very similar to the systems in use on fords Lightning trucks (factory supercharged)
why not just make an IC core for the L67 that uses an evaporator core and an orifice tube to make an IC settup that cools much more efficiently for short periods of time (15-25 seconds) at WOT as most of us will use them for short periods...
much easier to package in your vehicle (we have tons of room in our rear engine compartment! lol) it would let you keep your AC and give you that extra power all of us are looking fer.
and for those who might bring up the fact that the AC compressor uses crankshaft HP remember that ALL cars have a WOT compressor cutout (in the PCM) that shuts off the clutch the moment you go to WOT and with modern HVAC system capacities you can have 15 to 25 seconds of terrific cooling that will slowly decrease after that till the high/low side pressures equalize.
and the AC lines are usually smaller than coolant hoses making for a cleaner instalation and since the condensor is the heat radiator no additional pumps or radiatirs have to be installed...
just a thought and I was wondering if you guys have thought about it or played with the idea
anyways we will be doing it to ours, I have seen two turbo cars in SoCal that had air to freon Intercoolers so it has proven to be a good metheod of lowering air charge temps
by the way I am still working on the SI and SII top end conversion...so it might help open up your SII parts market...so far it'* not looking very complicated to tell you the truth, but yall will hear about it in due time....
on our twin engine car when I put the turbocharger on the rear 3800 (LN3) I will be using the evaporator core from a tahoe/suburban in a TIG'd box to acto as our intercooler, it will be plummbed into the AC from the front engine (or we may reinstall the AC on the rear engine) with solenoid valves to switch refrigerant flow (from the indash evaporator/HVAC) and with a few extra ounces of r134a it will provide a real efficient means of IC the turbo'd 3800 for short periods of time (below ambient cooling ability) very similar to the systems in use on fords Lightning trucks (factory supercharged)
why not just make an IC core for the L67 that uses an evaporator core and an orifice tube to make an IC settup that cools much more efficiently for short periods of time (15-25 seconds) at WOT as most of us will use them for short periods...
much easier to package in your vehicle (we have tons of room in our rear engine compartment! lol) it would let you keep your AC and give you that extra power all of us are looking fer.
and for those who might bring up the fact that the AC compressor uses crankshaft HP remember that ALL cars have a WOT compressor cutout (in the PCM) that shuts off the clutch the moment you go to WOT and with modern HVAC system capacities you can have 15 to 25 seconds of terrific cooling that will slowly decrease after that till the high/low side pressures equalize.
and the AC lines are usually smaller than coolant hoses making for a cleaner instalation and since the condensor is the heat radiator no additional pumps or radiatirs have to be installed...
just a thought and I was wondering if you guys have thought about it or played with the idea
anyways we will be doing it to ours, I have seen two turbo cars in SoCal that had air to freon Intercoolers so it has proven to be a good metheod of lowering air charge temps
by the way I am still working on the SI and SII top end conversion...so it might help open up your SII parts market...so far it'* not looking very complicated to tell you the truth, but yall will hear about it in due time....
#23
There is always hope but not currently. Everything from the kit works fine except the heat exchanger, unless you lose the air conditioner.
So I guess my next mod is a Gen 5 intercooler.
Any reason....besides going faster....why you went with the intercooler after you were raving about the benefits of running with the Gen 5 and how it was better than an intercooler in combination with a Gen 3 :?:
#24
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Westerville, Ohio 2000 Black SSEi
Posts: 6,127
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by 2000SilverBullet
There is always hope but not currently. Everything from the kit works fine except the heat exchanger, unless you lose the air conditioner.
So I guess my next mod is a Gen 5 intercooler.
Any reason....besides going faster....why you went with the intercooler after you were raving about the benefits of running with the Gen 5 and how it was better than an intercooler in combination with a Gen 3 :?:
After that I'll put S3 heads on the car and smash the VS and current S1x records and then put a S3 cam in.
The gen 5 IC can only be used with a gen 5 blower. You will need to upgrade the blower first before getting the IC. The only diff between the gen 3 IC and the gen 5 is the core (which matches the generation of blower you have).
#26
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Bloomington-Normal, IL 1997 SE
Posts: 3,734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chadow427
This is a dumb question, but here we go. The gen V is more efficient than the gen III, so where does the mp112 fit in? Or is that a completely different set up?
#28
"You should already have modified induction and exhaust before you even begin to consider this conversion. You'll need to purchase an intercooler and larger bore throttle body setup (LS1, Northstar, or similar) and have it customized for use with the MP112. Nothing else will be required - but an aftermarket cam, heads, fuel injectors and custom PCM will allow you to truly maximize this setup. "
INTENSE sells a kit but my guess is it won't fit SSEi'*.....interference with the alternator.
I challenge you to be the first, chadow. We need a guinea pig.
INTENSE sells a kit but my guess is it won't fit SSEi'*.....interference with the alternator.
I challenge you to be the first, chadow. We need a guinea pig.
#30
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Westerville, Ohio 2000 Black SSEi
Posts: 6,127
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by chadow427
This is a dumb question, but here we go. The gen V is more efficient than the gen III, so where does the mp112 fit in? Or is that a completely different set up?