Gears make it go.
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Gears make it go.
Yes that is an old saying and the creedance of many a hot rodder.
Using the comparison to my Trans Am with its 350 Turbohydramatic transmission 1st gear ratio of 2.52 and the rear end ratio of 3.08 : 1 the net result is a gear multiplication of 7.76.
A stock Bonneville with its 4T65 1st gear ratio of 2.92 and final drive ratio of 2.93 the net result is a gear multiplication of 8.56. This roughly equivalent to the T/A having a final rear ratio of 3.42 gears.
Now if you replace the Bonne gearing with a 3.29 rear gears, that is equivalent to 3.81 gears in the T/A.............and if you go with the 3.69 gears, that is equivalent to running 4.11'* in the T/A.
.....it'* no wonder Todd has trouble with traction in 1st gear.
Gears make it go
I know in the T/A that switching from 2.73 gears to 3.42 gears.......or from 2.41 gears (stock in my Formula) to 3.08 gears.....a 30% bump in output torque.....it shaved a full second off the 1/4 mile.
I know that this will not happen for my Bonne for some time, only to be justified by a complete trani overhaul, but Kudos to those who have done it.
I'm sure they can feel the difference in the butt meter.
Using the comparison to my Trans Am with its 350 Turbohydramatic transmission 1st gear ratio of 2.52 and the rear end ratio of 3.08 : 1 the net result is a gear multiplication of 7.76.
A stock Bonneville with its 4T65 1st gear ratio of 2.92 and final drive ratio of 2.93 the net result is a gear multiplication of 8.56. This roughly equivalent to the T/A having a final rear ratio of 3.42 gears.
Now if you replace the Bonne gearing with a 3.29 rear gears, that is equivalent to 3.81 gears in the T/A.............and if you go with the 3.69 gears, that is equivalent to running 4.11'* in the T/A.
.....it'* no wonder Todd has trouble with traction in 1st gear.
Gears make it go
I know in the T/A that switching from 2.73 gears to 3.42 gears.......or from 2.41 gears (stock in my Formula) to 3.08 gears.....a 30% bump in output torque.....it shaved a full second off the 1/4 mile.
I know that this will not happen for my Bonne for some time, only to be justified by a complete trani overhaul, but Kudos to those who have done it.
I'm sure they can feel the difference in the butt meter.
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that is why i say use the shortest slick that is wide enough to do the job.
Paul we are hampered because we can't use a 15" wheel, if we could get a
15" wheel to fit, then we could use a short (22") tall slick for the track and
the stock size (27") tall tire for the street, best of both worlds.
ROD
Paul we are hampered because we can't use a 15" wheel, if we could get a
15" wheel to fit, then we could use a short (22") tall slick for the track and
the stock size (27") tall tire for the street, best of both worlds.
ROD
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Originally Posted by rrounds
that is why i say use the shortest slick that is wide enough to do the job.
Paul we are hampered because we can't use a 15" wheel, if we could get a
15" wheel to fit, then we could use a short (22") tall slick for the track and
the stock size (27") tall tire for the street, best of both worlds.
ROD
Paul we are hampered because we can't use a 15" wheel, if we could get a
15" wheel to fit, then we could use a short (22") tall slick for the track and
the stock size (27") tall tire for the street, best of both worlds.
ROD
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...I totally agree, and I think that'* partially why my car is quicker than it should be. I'm runnin' some pretty small tires right now...
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here ya go Paul,
D.O.T. Drag Radial
Tire Size: P335/35R17
Tread Width: 12.5"
Diameter: 25.4"
Circle: 82.0"
Recommended Rim: 11-13"
Measured Rim: 12"
Section Width: 13.5"
Tire Weight: 25
522-17335
it'* a little WIDE .......
but if you still can't hook em up :(
Tire Compound: D-1
Tire Overall Diameter: 33.8''
Average Roll Out/
Circumference: 105''
Tire Tread Width: 16.8''
Tire Section Width: 20.1''
Wheel Diameter: 16''
Required
Wheel Width: 13-16''
Tire Weight: 38.0 lbs
i'm sure you won't spin those.
ROD
D.O.T. Drag Radial
Tire Size: P335/35R17
Tread Width: 12.5"
Diameter: 25.4"
Circle: 82.0"
Recommended Rim: 11-13"
Measured Rim: 12"
Section Width: 13.5"
Tire Weight: 25
522-17335
it'* a little WIDE .......
but if you still can't hook em up :(
Tire Compound: D-1
Tire Overall Diameter: 33.8''
Average Roll Out/
Circumference: 105''
Tire Tread Width: 16.8''
Tire Section Width: 20.1''
Wheel Diameter: 16''
Required
Wheel Width: 13-16''
Tire Weight: 38.0 lbs
i'm sure you won't spin those.
ROD
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hey, you asked i delivered ! ! !
now go get some rims.
even though it might be hard to find
16"(WIDE) rim'*. GOD that would look like
and people would say
and then you would show them your
ROD
now go get some rims.
even though it might be hard to find
16"(WIDE) rim'*. GOD that would look like
and people would say
and then you would show them your
ROD