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Old 04-04-2004, 05:00 PM   #21
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I laid a few 2 wheel burnouts without my LSD too, I noticed both would spin and than one would catch and the other tire would still add another 15feet of rubber. but couldn't get both to hook up everytime. One of the main reasons I got it was to elminate Tourque steer and help rolling launches, where non LSD will never hook up both tires.

For me, I'm not stopping either, I just want my PHASE 1 done as well, rockers, headers, and PCM. drive it for a year. Next year get IC and ported blower and save up for a beefed tranny, then who knows, I also need to save for a winter beater too.
Yes, I agree with you. That'* my incentive too for the LSD.
My plans exactly.

So far I'm sticking with ZZP. They are awesome when it comes to service and products.

That trani is going to be the most costly. I may stop now to avoid the pain.
I already have a beater Jeep for winter.
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Old 04-04-2004, 11:36 PM   #22
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... I may stop now to avoid the pain.
Got to have faith my Silver friend. Lots of GP'* trannys have lasted with 1.9'*, headers and PCM and many 1/4mile passes for long time, unfortunatly some have not either. Got to think positive, for me once that tranny goes, a beefy cam will shortly follow.

Just try not to beat on it ALL-THE-TIME!!! I read your stories on your driving habits and high speed stories, and your low gas mileage average, first thing that comes to mind.... He drives like ME!.. lol.
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Just try not to beat on it ALL-THE-TIME!!! I read your stories on your driving habits and high speed stories, and your low gas mileage average, first thing that comes to mind.... He drives like ME!.. lol.

It'* a good thing that my wife drives it 80% of the time.
I take my Firebird to work. It'* a lot tougher.

Hey...BTW, one point I thought I'd mention is your now useless spare tire. At least for the front wheels. Did you notice how small the OD is....about 23".
So if you use it with your LSD, because it will be turning a lot faster than your normal tire, your clutches in your LSD will burn out in short order.
That'* one of the reasons I'm leaning towards the Quaffe unit. Zero maintenance and longer life with no friction discs.
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Just try not to beat on it ALL-THE-TIME!!! I read your stories on your driving habits and high speed stories, and your low gas mileage average, first thing that comes to mind.... He drives like ME!.. lol.

It'* a good thing that my wife drives it 80% of the time.
I take my Firebird to work. It'* a lot tougher.

Hey...BTW, one point I thought I'd mention is your now useless spare tire. At least for the front wheels. Did you notice how small the OD is....about 23".
So if you use it with your LSD, because it will be turning a lot faster than your normal tire, your clutches in your LSD will burn out in short order.
That'* one of the reasons I'm leaning towards the Quaffe unit. Zero maintenance and longer life with no friction discs.
Its not really USELESS, you can still put a rear tire on the front and the spare on the rear. It can get you home, but yea i wouldnt want to put it on the front. 2 changes instead of 1, small price to pay for grippy grippy
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yeah, yeah, thanks for reminding me, not that big of a deal to change rear to front IF i have too, don't plan on getting any flats though, who does? The Quaffe is a little out of my budget, spent that money on rockers instead. 2 mods for the price of one.
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The Quaffe is a little out of my budget, spent that money on rockers instead. 2 mods for the price of one.
My dad thought the same thing too until he had to buy his 3rd Intense LSD, which might I add quit working after about 4 burnouts at the track yesterday. Just a stock differential again. Just an FYI for anyone considering a Gen I Intense LSD....DON'T!!! The Quaiffe would've definately been a better buy at this point in time. Oh well, not much he can do now. Hopefully the Gen II is a better design and it will last.

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Hey, remember guys that the type of LSD with discs was originally developed for rear wheel drive differentials that run in heavy weight gear oil....not light weight trani fluid.....that doesn't have any friction modifier in it either.
I also notice that other car brands OEM front wheel drive LSD'* are a Quaffe type design for warranty issues.
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My dad thought the same thing too until he had to buy his 3rd Intense LSD
Please report all the facts if you want to bash our product. Let me list some pertinent ones here:

Your first LSD was installed incorrectly and subsequently destroyed. The parking gear was installed backwards, and we still have the all the damaged parts here in case you've forgotten. It'* obvious, whether you like it or not, that the INSIDE portion of the parking gear damaged the INSIDE edge of the differential. And this would not have been possible with correct installation.

We replaced that unit at NO CHARGE. Seven months after the warranty expired, we then replaced that LSD with another at NO CHARGE since you were unhappy with the performance of the product. Another year later when you wanted a third replacement, we denied the request.

We've got several hundred First Gen LSD'* in the field, and most customers like them. Our Second Gen LSD is MUCH better, and these will be breaking many 60' records in 2004.

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My dad thought the same thing too until he had to buy his 3rd Intense LSD
Please report all the facts if you want to bash our product. Let me list some pertinent ones here:

Your first LSD was installed incorrectly and subsequently destroyed. The parking gear was installed backwards, and we still have the all the damaged parts here in case you've forgotten. It'* obvious, whether you like it or not, that the INSIDE portion of the parking gear damaged the INSIDE edge of the differential. And this would not have been possible with correct installation.
We have told you numerous times. TRY PUTTING IT TOGETHER LIKE THAT!!! YOU KNOW DAMN WELL IT WILL NOT GO TOGETHER. THE CAR WAS DRIVEN 300 MILES WITH ONLY 1 BURNOUT JUST TO SEE IF THE DIFF. WORKED BEFORE THE LSD FELL APART! The tranny might go together like that (not even completely sure about this, but possibly), but not enough that you would be able to actually drive the car. We took it out (this would be less than 1 week after it was installed) and sent it to you, and yes you replaced it, we appreciate that, but you should've replaced it, it was well within the 90 day warranty.

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We replaced that unit at NO CHARGE. Seven months after the warranty expired, we then replaced that LSD with another at NO CHARGE since you were unhappy with the performance of the product. Another year later when you wanted a third replacement, we denied the request.
Yes you did replace the first one, like I said above we appreciate that. As for the 7 months later, I have no idea about that....you never replaced one after the first one you replaced. In case you don't recall correctly, we didn't buy the first one until like March or April of last year, so I don't know where you find this extra year you are talking about??? As for the 2nd replacement (not 3rd, as the 3rd Intense LSD is the one currently in the car, so it hasn't been replaced yet...although it is now junk and should be, and since it hasn't been 90 days yet, maybe we should get a replacement). Its pretty bad when an LSD with ~250 miles on it and 4 burnouts on it quits working. Yes, when the tranny was rebuilt with 3.29 gears and stuff like that ~1 month ago, Zooomer said that he would ask for a replacement and see what happened, we didn't tell him to do that, he chose to because the worst that could happen is you could deny it, and in the end we did end up buying it, so it doesn't really matter...you got your rediculous sum of money. What I want to know is why the 2nd differential broke? It also fell apart in the tranny. What doesn't make sense is that the car isn't beaten on except for at the track and that differential only had ~50 passes and 7000 miles on it. (the car is a good weather car and is not driven a lot) And now the 3rd differential doesn't even have close to 1k on it, and has about 7 passes on it and it doesn't work anymore. What is the problem here?

But yet you still tell everyone you have never had a differential go bad, when we have had 2 replaced and Zooomer has also had at least 2 replaced. But they never break.

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We've got several hundred First Gen LSD'* in the field, and most customers like them. Our Second Gen LSD is MUCH better, and these will be breaking many 60' records in 2004.

Scott
Good for those customers, I am glad they have had better luck than we have. We were hoping we would have better luck with the 3rd, that is why we bought it, but obviously that was not the case, and having 3 bad differentials from you doesn't really make anyone want to invest anything in your new differential even if it is supposed to be so much better.

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What'* a 60'?
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