Drivetrain Power Loss Formula
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Originally Posted by fantastic88
20% on our trannys 40% on Chrysler trannys.
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Originally Posted by TaylorD
The 4T80e tranny in Aurora'* and Caddies and now the GXP is rated at 24% loss.
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The Automakers should rate their vehicles by Wheel horsepower instead of Brake horsepower.
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Originally Posted by dbtk2
Originally Posted by 2000SilverBullet
The Automakers should rate their vehicles by Wheel horsepower instead of Brake horsepower.
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About Chrysler trannies. They are absolute crap! I used to own a '94 Intrepid with the 3.5L (which was an awesome motor btw) and that tranny just sucked the life out of it. I also have witnessed a brand new 300M special on the dyno. It only pulled 170whp which translates into a 33% driveline loss (Chrysler claims 255 bhp stock on the 3.5L HO). That much loss is rediculus, not to mention the fact that the trannies grenade themselves on a regular basis (I went through 2 before I finally got rid of the car). Don't get me wrong, I liked the Intrepid, but my new bonnie is in a completely different class.
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Originally Posted by swartlkk
Well, the problem that also comes to mind is that every different form (fwd, rwd, awd / manual, 3sp auto, 4sp auto, 5sp auto) would all have different horsepower ratings even if they had the exact same motor. .
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My point is that no one will ever go to publishing the whp of their cars simply because it is much more difficult and complicated than publishing the bhp of the engine.
For car lines that only have 1 transmission/drivetrain option (less engine), it would be fine, but with all of the new cars coming out that have 3 or more different engines, 2 different transmissions, and then the option of awd or fwd. Instead of having 3 different hp numbers for the 3 different engines, they would need 12 different numbers for all the different combinations of drivetrain.
Heck, this mentality has pushed on down into the world of tractors. My father owns and operates a 2500 acre farm in central NY. He started looking at purchasing 2 new tractors recently and had to do some conversions to find out the horsepower of his current tractors because all newer tractors are rated as bhp. Older ratings were based of of PTO horsepower. Because of the multitude of different transmissions (3 different ones in the 9300 series tractors) and the lack of PTO'* on the newer tractors (it'* a $7-$10,000 option) they simply started taking the bhp.
In the end it'* all about making less work and more money.
For car lines that only have 1 transmission/drivetrain option (less engine), it would be fine, but with all of the new cars coming out that have 3 or more different engines, 2 different transmissions, and then the option of awd or fwd. Instead of having 3 different hp numbers for the 3 different engines, they would need 12 different numbers for all the different combinations of drivetrain.
Heck, this mentality has pushed on down into the world of tractors. My father owns and operates a 2500 acre farm in central NY. He started looking at purchasing 2 new tractors recently and had to do some conversions to find out the horsepower of his current tractors because all newer tractors are rated as bhp. Older ratings were based of of PTO horsepower. Because of the multitude of different transmissions (3 different ones in the 9300 series tractors) and the lack of PTO'* on the newer tractors (it'* a $7-$10,000 option) they simply started taking the bhp.
In the end it'* all about making less work and more money.