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Old 08-27-2007, 12:17 AM   #11
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My opinion? Neither. Never install new pads on old rotors.

And I'm a BIG hater of crossdrilled or generic rotors. Yours are both.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:37 AM   #12
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i think the best thing i can with with me needing them like now lol but i havent even goten them yet. im going to washigton on the 22nd of next month. so ill probly just do it myself. but ill goahead and instal them. see how it goes. if they seem ok. decent stopping. gota be better than what i got now with no grinding. if they seem ok ill jus leave them. and next time when i get brakes ill go through you, get your opnion for some help i was looking at intence brakes but they car kinda pricy. maby next time. cause next thing img etting is fwi from intence
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:39 AM   #13
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We can do your next set of brakes and FWI here in no time. I have air tools.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:43 AM   #14
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sweet. yeh cause im not shure at all how to deal with the pcm outa the air box and stuff. so yeh your help would be awsome!!

so u think its cool to hook these things up?
just u saying yes would make me feel waay better hookin them up
i mean i could resale them but i need them now i dont have time to wait anymore. the time it would take to resale 7days... get the money outa paypal 5 days and then buy enw ones and wait agian like 2 weeks. :(
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so this is what i should get next time i order??

http://www.intense-racing.com/

http://www.intense-racing.com/
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what about a pcm is that a plug and play thing? or do u have to tune?
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:49 AM   #16
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I gotta back willwren up, but only somewhat. Those particular rotors are actually drilled, and that'* a problem, as is the off-brand part.

But I don't agree about cross-drilled rotors being bad in and of themselves. I had a very positive experience with a set of PowerStop cross drilled rotors on my 95, and if I had been able to afford to get a set for the PA when I did them, I would have.
It depends on the quality of the manufacturer, and the method that they use. Actually drilling rotors is horrible, it weakens the metal considerably and can lead to catostrophic failures. But casting the holes into the metal can yield a rotor every bit as strong as plain discs.
The other thing that will usually brings up is reduced braking area beacuase of the holes. This is true, but how i effects your car is depnedent on your driving habits.
I did a lot of hard stop and go at high speed with mine(pizza delivery), so keeping the brakes cool was a major consideration. I never experienced fade with them. I alos didn't notice any loss of braking force at cooler temps.

Whatever you decide, NEVER take chances with your brakes. They're the most important system on your car, and any improvement you can make is going to be worth a little extra cash.
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yeh i agree with both of you i eman i havea high level of respect for zilla i agree with about everytihng he says i just feel like **** 215.00 down the drain u know. im basiacly wanting somone to say yeh they will be fine so ill feel better
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The holes, whether drilled or cast in using quality methods or not decrease the rotor'* braking surface area. There is no pad friction where there is a hole.

OEM applications that use holes in the rotors (corvette for instance) use a larger diameter rotor to recover that lost surface area.
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Well we'll tell you they're ok, and that you don't have to worry...if we wanted to lie and possibly see you have a terrible accident one day because your brakes catastrophically failed on you when you needed them the most!

To keep it simple, if you need GOOD brakes, right now, right away...as a direct suggestion I would use Bendix rotors (they are BIG, THICK suckers, many people here can back them up as an EXCELLENT OE replacement) and either Bendix CT-3 ceramic pads (rank #1) or Bendix TitanuMetallic pads.They should have them in stock at your local Checker/PartsAmerica store. If you can help it, do NOT install those cross drilled brakes, just relist em on eBay. We're talking about a possible life and death matter here. If you want to be able to trust just one thing and one thing only on your car, it should be your brakes, and with those unknown, unbranded, unrecommended brakes, not only can you not count on them, you can almost count against them with absolute certainty.
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If you just want to get decent brakes on it, you don't have to go all out and spend hundreds of dollars like this. I've had pretty good luck with the ~$30 rotors that Napa sells, and their midgrade or good pads. You can probably get out of there for around $80-100, and possibly be better off than installing what you bought off ebay.

Probably not the greatest stuff out there, and I wouldn't autocross with it or anything, but I've been happy for average driving.
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