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Old 10-08-2009, 10:25 PM   #1
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Not even worth asking. headers are way way better, performance wise. PEMs are a OK alternative to stock at a good price. They also bolt in to the stock exhaust system. Headers are more costly, and most need some modifications to the down pipe and moving the cat back a bit. headers also have a rather annoying tick, this can be corrected with header wrap on the flex pipe.
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that'* what i thought but wanted different opinions just so i know i made the right decision ok now that the mystery is solved T.O.G. ZZperformance, or SLP
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I have TOG, and I'm real happy with them. Purple had SLP, that did not go well, I think he has TOG now. Pacesetters are a cheep header, I've heard bad things, and a few good things about them.

The down side with headers is the work that you will need to go threw. There will be cutting and welding. Although, I seem to remember pacesetters are a bolt in.
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I'll go with the ported manifolds due to the fact that any backyard mechanic could be able to do them. I have seen performance modifications that should not have been attempted by the backyard mechanic.
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I did TOGs on a Regal, not too bad of a days work but things can be hard to reach to tighten bolts so make sure you have plenty of extenders and a universal joint
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There are so many alternatives out there for headers these days.

From a perspective I'd rank things this way
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PEM'* IMO are not worth the time to bolt them on. Typically only the mouth was opened. Yet the restriction of the front manifold is the neck. If you can't address the necking issue, you are doing very little for performance.

PLog (Front only): Great alternative to headers. It'* becoming common for them to crack as they are welded inside and then ground down. A good suggestion is to have them rewelded on the outside for bulletproof operation. This can be bolted on easily since it replaces the stock manifold and uses all the same locations and hardware.

Headers: I'm in a unique place where I've had experience with and installed most brands of headers. SLP'*" I have them and like them. Good fitment and good O2 sensor location. Kevin had trouble with the crossover and is the only person I've heard to have that issue. Most find the flex ticks, replacing that upfront or wrapping it with header wrap is a cure. Slip fit to put together. TOGS: being that they bolt up with exhaust donuts and flanges, many times they leak, IMO the donut is a partial restriction. Install is a bit of a pain to balance all the donuts, bolts etc, sealing can be challenging, O2 location is not in a good place for 92-96 H bodies. It is common for me to see these smeared with a full tube of RTV to seal them because they were installed by a person who didn't tighten the connections equally at the same time. The flanges for the connections are bulky and can get in the way when doing a trans swap etc.
PaceSettes: Many have had lots of success with these. For a budget header they do the job well. Research the modifications, clamps, welding or gaskets you should get and you'll be pleased with the cost and performance. These bolt up like TOGS with flanges and donuts.
OBX: I've never installed them, have heard of fitment issues though.
SSAutochrome: SLP knock off'* at a great price. Overall they seem to be good quality and like the Pacesetters, research is the key. These headers don't come with clamps.

With any header on an H body (our cars) you will require some welding. They were designed and are originally marketed for the W body. There are pieces that bolt right up to the factory catback on the W body. H does not have that flange/split in the exhaust. Some cutting/welding or clamping is required. A single reducer is usually all it takes to adapt from the header downpipe to the factory exhaust.

Overall, I'd probably suggest the SSAutochrome headers for price and fitment. $300 brand new at their website.
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Damned awesome post billboost I had no idea about the headers made by ssautochrome. Now I have to choose between SLP or the SS ARGH xD. I wonder which gives better gains or are they the same and ones is just generic?
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I would go with port and polished manifolds other than headers just because you won't have to have issues with all the annoying welding and things like that on headers.
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