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Old 09-14-2006, 05:59 PM   #21
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"Who ya gonna trust more an bunch of nuts or the best source of Bonneville information on the internet "


Without a doubt you guys of course... that is why I ask some many questions on here. I know that here I will get the real story, not just urban legends and myths.
Thank you for the info, as always.. you guys are great!.


Has anybody attempting painting the hose on thier intense FWI? Just wondering......
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Has anybody attempting painting the hose on thier intense FWI? Just wondering......
nope noone has painted it......you always can give it a try
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Just think it would look really awesome if as I slowly replace/modify things under the hood I can start converting things over to red.( I.E. intake, wires, coil covers...etc...)


How much of a pain is it to install a FWI? Keep in mind that I ( obvisously ) have little expierance in such matters. I am all about doing the work though. I love working on/ doing what I can to my vehicles myself.

My wife likes to pick on me cuase I go nuts if the car acctually has to go into the shop for anything. When the dealer replaced the window regulator I asked him if I could go watch and he just laughed and told me to sit in the waiting room ( car will never go there again, for other reasons then that though)
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This may be a stupid question and I can tell you are already tired of putting up with me questions.... but anyways.... I work with a bunch of car nuts that keep telling me not to get a CAI or FWI due to the risk of hydrolocking an engine. What is this all about and does the intense have anything built in to prevent this, like the AEM'* do?( I know AEM does not make one for our cars, just using them as an example.)
Ask them how likely it is that the filter will become fully submerged, and then figure out how much force would be required to draw that much water up into the intake, and then think about how long the engine will run before it stalls FROM LACK OF AIR before the water even got close.

FWI or CAI. If your motor hydrolocks, you pay shipping back and forth to Oregon with the parts, and I'll rebuild it for you for free labor.

Ask any of your car nut friends to find you ONE documented case on the internet where it actually happened. Not just urban legends or "I heard this happened".

It'* a myth.
Hydrolocking is not a myth.
I hydrolocked my Jeep and it now has a new motor in it because of it. Seized up so hard it wouldn't budge with a breaker bar and cheater. When this happened I did some searching about it and I did find other cases on the internet. Sometime you get lucky and it stalls quick enough that no damage is done, sometimes (in my case) all that rotating mass in the motor tries to compress a cylinder full of water and the rod does not like it. I never would have expected it to happen to me (the water was not much over 12" deep) but it only takes that one right situation, and I guess I found that situation.
The force to suck up the water? There is plenty. Think about the CFM of air your motor draws. Think about the vacuum it creates, about 10psi I think? Thatí* 23 ftH20. Meaning it will draw water in a tube strait up 23 feet.

With all that said though, it is not common on the road. If you try to cross a flooded road or drive through a large deep puddle you might have an issue. But IMO if you are doing that in a car you are asking for it anyway; and besides, you may have problem in that case with a stock intake as well. The (on-road) cases I had seen were mostly from lowered cars or small cars that put the CAI way low in the front of the car, such as below the bumper cover / front fascia. So of course an intake 4Ē off the ground is more likely to have a problem with this.
Iíd imagine a FWI on a bonnie is still off the ground fairly good (and somewhat protected) and should be not much more likely to have a problem than a stock box would. It is rare to happen on the road, but I donít want misleading info out there. Get yourself a FWI or CAI and enjoy it!
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Just think it would look really awesome if as I slowly replace/modify things under the hood I can start converting things over to red.( I.E. intake, wires, coil covers...etc...)


How much of a pain is it to install a FWI? Keep in mind that I ( obvisously ) have little expierance in such matters. I am all about doing the work though. I love working on/ doing what I can to my vehicles myself.

My wife likes to pick on me cuase I go nuts if the car acctually has to go into the shop for anything. When the dealer replaced the window regulator I asked him if I could go watch and he just laughed and told me to sit in the waiting room ( car will never go there again, for other reasons then that though)
Should be real easy. A few bolts and a clamp to get the old intake out and about the same to get the FWI in. Only thing I am not sure about is PCM relocation on a 00+ Don't know if you need to do it or not.
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Big difference between a Jeep in a puddle and a Bonneville where it should be (on the road).

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Now thats what I am talking about!!!!!!!!!
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