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Old 05-08-2008, 11:25 AM   #1
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Anyone know if a 97 SSEi rear swaybar will bolt onto my 94 SE? Just broke mine last night, not looking forward to my twisty ride to work!
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The SSEi bar is larger than the SE bar; this will change the handling balance of the car.

A larger rear bar will shift the roll couple rearward making the car more prone to oversteer. (Back end slide out.) Of the three basic handling balance states, understeer, neutral, oversteer; oversteer is the least forgiving.
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Yep. From research, if you're going to convert, do the whole swap. You make the vehicle horribly unstable in certain situations unless you convert everything. It'* kind of like the theory of putting studded snow tires on the front in the winter, and leaving the rear tires standard all seasons. You're bound to whip the *** around at some point... but perhaps a little more severe than a sway bar.
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I swapped on JUST the F41 rear bar with some Energy Suspension endlinks and I was very happy with the results. There is much less back end roll with no negaitve side effects.
I say go for it.
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FTR, there is no "F41 rear bar". There is a 'ride and handling' rear bar that is used on both FE2 and F41 suspensions.
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FTR, there is no "F41 rear bar". There is a 'ride and handling' rear bar that is used on both FE2 and F41 suspensions.
I really ment FE2 rear bar. My fault.
I grabbed it off of a 93 SSEi.
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Give this a read, it is a good primer:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=78912

Handling balance is, to a point, driver preference. Oversteer is less forgiving, easier to loose control, harder to regain control. Most cars are designed from the factory to understeer, because it is easier for the average driver to deal with. Oversteer requires above average driver skill to be safe.
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Thanks for all the great info and opinions. The article on suspension by Curt was an excellent resource. I have since removed my rear swaybar, as it was broken and liable to do something bad like take out a rear tire. Now I think the car actually handles BETTER! It seemed a bit too stiff in the rear before, and the butt would kind of "skitter", especially on bumpy or rough turns. Now it seems to place more weight (and traction?) on the outside rear tire, and actually feels quite nuetral and "rotates" nicely thru a turn, with just a tiny bit more body roll. I can induce mild oversteer by carrying too much speed thru a turn, but it comes on slowly and is catchable. The car tended to understeer before, and I hate understeer! Any ideas or experience on how having NO rear swaybar may adversely effect suspension parts and/or tire wear?
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There'* something wrong up front. Removing that rear should have upset your close-to-neutral stock handling.
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Ok, what could be wrong up front? I have older--but still good--Monroe Sensa-Tracs, stock everything else, with the exception of poly front sway bar end links. All 4 tires are GoodYear Eagle RS-A Plus 225/60/16'*--not too much tread left, not to wear bars yet (let'* say "shaved to racing depth")-- on stock aluminum rims Any ideas are welcomed.
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