WTB : 3800 Serie 1 Performance Part's !
05-09-2008, 02:06 AM
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WTB : 3800 Serie 1 Performance Part'* !
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I am searching part'* for my SSEi, it'* a 1994 Bonneville SSEi with the 3800 Serie 1 ( L32 ) ! I wanted to buy Performance part'* for this engine but could'nt find it on the net, I expected if you guy'* are knowing any website with part'* for this engine for Sale ! I live in Canada I don't care if it'* an Canadian or American website ! Thank you !
I am searching part'* for my SSEi, it'* a 1994 Bonneville SSEi with the 3800 Serie 1 ( L32 ) ! I wanted to buy Performance part'* for this engine but could'nt find it on the net, I expected if you guy'* are knowing any website with part'* for this engine for Sale ! I live in Canada I don't care if it'* an Canadian or American website ! Thank you !
05-09-2008, 07:47 AM
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Your engine is an L67, not an L32, and please tell us WHAT parts you are looking for. I don't have time to sit here and compile a monster list of 100 parts you don't want or need.
05-09-2008, 12:29 PM
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Whopps yeah the L32 is the SERIE III Loll'z ! Yeah I need those part'* for a L67 Serie I : Rocker Arm 1.9 and Spring'* 105 ! I need a Bigger Throttle 72mm and + and that'* all ! I have a small pulley on my engine and I wanted to add a little more in the head'* like those rocker and stronger spring'* for 6000+ Rpm !
05-09-2008, 12:40 PM
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The Series 1 won't make power at 6000 rpm'*. It'* quite different than a Series 2 in that regard. 1.8 rockers are the highest ratio anyone makes. Either INTENSE or ZZP for those, but SERIES 2 ROCKERS won't fit. Make SURE you're getting Series 1 YT rockers.
105# springs (Series 2 springs won't work):
What size pulley are you running right now?
There are no larger throttle bodies that are compatible, and frankly, you don't need it Plenty can be done with the car on the stock TB.
Also, can you please read this information:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=73691
It will help us to help you if you pay attention to the details.
105# springs (Series 2 springs won't work):
Originally Posted by willwren
Summit doesn't LIST anything for your car, nor does compcams. Here'* a very small snapshot of what it takes to determine the correct spring:
Going back to this. My measurement on the spring showed an open valve spring height with 1.8 rockers as being 1.35". The spring above doesn't bind until 1.150". That'* good. Stock spring force at 1.35" will be around the 220 mark (1.3 was 245, 1.4 was 192 when I measured). Using this calculator:
http://www.engineersedge.com/calcula...spring_pop.htm
I get a rate of 320 using 1.4", and 350 at 1.3".
The springs listed above will be 287 pounds at 1.35" with 1.8 rockers as opposed to 225ish with stock springs, valve open force. Not too bad.
Using 1.72 as the install height (from my most careful measurement) I have 114#. 102# at 1.75". I think we're in the ballpark here. As an acid test, I measured spring bind on our stockers at 1.25"/377 lbs. These springs above would actually be 307.5 at 1.25".
So the rate is higher as the valve sits closed, and is slightly higher as well at valve open, but is slightly lower at coil bind. That'* what we want if these numbers are good.
Check me on this. I need to order them!
That'* about 2% of the total conversation, work, and calculations used to determine them. Those are the springs I used, and SHOULD be the springs you need. I'd prefer to have you remove an OEM spring and measure it. Also measure your install height just to be sure after you remove a rocker arm.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Whaddya think about this one?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
CCA-983-12 $55.39
Estimated Ship Date: Today
Application Warranty Show All
Brand: COMP Cams
Product Line: COMP Cams Valve Springs
Number of Springs Per Valve: Single
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 1.250 in.
Coil Bind Height (in): 1.150 in.
Damper Spring Included: No
Spring Rate (lbs/in): 410 lbs./in.
Inside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 0.836 in.
Inside Diameter of Inner Spring (in): 0.836 in.
Valve Spring Style: Ovate wire
Coated: No
Quantity: Sold as a set of 12.
Valve Springs, Single, 1.250 in. Outside Diameter, 410 lbs./in. Rate, 1.150 in. Coil Bind Height, Set of 12
Recommended Camshaft Style Roller hydraulic
Installed Height (in) 1.700 in.
Seat Pressure at Installed Height (lbs) 105 lbs.
Open Height (in) 1.200 in.
Open Pressure (lbs) 310 lbs.
Estimated Ship Date: Today
Application Warranty Show All
Brand: COMP Cams
Product Line: COMP Cams Valve Springs
Number of Springs Per Valve: Single
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 1.250 in.
Coil Bind Height (in): 1.150 in.
Damper Spring Included: No
Spring Rate (lbs/in): 410 lbs./in.
Inside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 0.836 in.
Inside Diameter of Inner Spring (in): 0.836 in.
Valve Spring Style: Ovate wire
Coated: No
Quantity: Sold as a set of 12.
Valve Springs, Single, 1.250 in. Outside Diameter, 410 lbs./in. Rate, 1.150 in. Coil Bind Height, Set of 12
Recommended Camshaft Style Roller hydraulic
Installed Height (in) 1.700 in.
Seat Pressure at Installed Height (lbs) 105 lbs.
Open Height (in) 1.200 in.
Open Pressure (lbs) 310 lbs.
http://www.engineersedge.com/calcula...spring_pop.htm
I get a rate of 320 using 1.4", and 350 at 1.3".
The springs listed above will be 287 pounds at 1.35" with 1.8 rockers as opposed to 225ish with stock springs, valve open force. Not too bad.
Using 1.72 as the install height (from my most careful measurement) I have 114#. 102# at 1.75". I think we're in the ballpark here. As an acid test, I measured spring bind on our stockers at 1.25"/377 lbs. These springs above would actually be 307.5 at 1.25".
So the rate is higher as the valve sits closed, and is slightly higher as well at valve open, but is slightly lower at coil bind. That'* what we want if these numbers are good.
Check me on this. I need to order them!
There are no larger throttle bodies that are compatible, and frankly, you don't need it Plenty can be done with the car on the stock TB.
Also, can you please read this information:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=73691
It will help us to help you if you pay attention to the details.
05-10-2008, 07:35 PM
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If i'm not wrong 2.5", ill check with predecessor owner to be sure ! As I see there'* not alot'* of part'* available for that engine .. ! I Should tune my Serie II instead of this one .. !
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