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Old 10-12-2004, 10:55 AM   #11
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Maybe some kind of Ford/GM hybrid system is possible! Maybe add the Ford Air/Air IC idea in our own cars, mount it how the ford is mounted, this could be possible with a custom intake manifold. Could be costly, but maybe if theres enough customers from the 500+ BC members, they could make a package for us.
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Old 10-12-2004, 12:25 PM   #12
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Matt, you realize that won't work on your 95 without a major change in pulleys and a custom lower intake manifold?
Yes i realize that a Series 1 3800 uses an M62. Perhaps there are people on this board that have a Series 2 with an M90? I guess i was thinking outside of the box rather than selfish, so that maybe other people could benefit from my findings. I also said i was going to get in contact with them to find out about a possible M62 option for other makes.
Matt, not sure you're aware of this, but there are some people on this Forum that don't know the dissimilarities between The Series 1 and 2, or even when the transition took place. Alot of members, actually. I'm trying to prevent someone from running out and buying something on a lark that won't bolt up.

On a side note, how long do you think it'll be before they get sued for using the MagnaPort trademark? That one is already licensed for a different technology
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Old 10-12-2004, 12:52 PM   #13
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Ya, your right will...

Its totally impossible for this to work on our cars. Theres no chance the company that owns the patent for the technology will attempt to make a kit for the L67.

There is absolutely no possible way any of this can be done. We'll probably get sued just for looking at this post.

Why doesnt the Bonnevilleclub get sued for using the Pontiac trademark..

If anybody actually went out and bought that not knowing anything about it, they shouldn't be allowed to drive in the first place.

And why would the company sue itself for adapting the technology to another purpose... I know if it was me, id be glad to adapt it to other cars if there was a demand for it. Obviously there are people here that support this idea, and other(*) that believe it'* a sin (as is being proved right in here)

I get the impression that you don't like me Will, and since i have never met you in person, i can't see why that would be. Other than my catalytic converterless car that you didnt think was a good thing

If some act increases the efficiency of something you own, wouldn't you want it done? This reminds me of the stone age when people were boiled in lead if they didn't agree with someone else
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Not once did I say this was an impossibility, Matt. I'm sitting here waiting for their feedback to you on the L67 kit, just like everyone else.

And the MagnaPort trademark isn't part of the automotive community.

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I get the impression that you don't like me Will, and since i have never met you in person, i can't see why that would be. Other than my catalytic converterless car that you didnt think was a good thing
Matt, I don't even really know you, so how can I not like you? I honestly can't name a single person here on this forum that I don't like. The cat issue was to help you personally. Your welcome
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except me loL


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Get a Dictionary, Justin.
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Matt,

I realize we are splitting hairs here but ...

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Anyway, yeah the T-Bird uses a 3.8L engine, its not a 3800. 3800 is an engine classification used by GM.
3800 means 3 thousand 800 cubic centimeters. The Thunderbird motor IS a 3800 CC engine just like the GM 3800 CC.
I guess my point is that 3.8 liter is the SAME as 3800. Not that it matters.
It'* like saying a Honda motor is 1 liter while a Suzuki motor is 1000 CC'*.

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3800 is the name of the engine.. that is what GM calls them.. not the 3,800cc engine. Just because an engine displaces the same as the other, doesn't mean its the same engine. I am sure the blocks aren't based off each other, making them different, and of course, not the same engine.


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This would seem like a lot of work to adapt this to our cars. A ported blower and a smaller pulley should give good results, and make people feel a lot safer, even if they aren't pushing 19lbs of boost.
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3800 means 3 thousand 800 cubic centimeters. The Thunderbird motor IS a 3800 CC engine just like the GM 3800 CC.
Actually! The 3.8L Ford isnt 3800 CC.. 3800 CC is 231 CI (us GM boys). The ford is 232 CI so if you want to get really technical the ford is called a 3828 series motor LOL ..

A ported blower isnt really the same idea as this. This supercharger is actually redesigned to increase volumetric efficiency.. They use an idea Eatone/Magnusone (don't want to get sued, pardon the spelling) didn't think of. Notice the very visibile rotors? It gives more contact between the air and rotors, and less restriction by not having to pull it around so many angles. Its a great idea IMO!

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