Steering column/ignition wiring diagram
08-11-2023, 10:52 AM
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(deep breath...)
Ok! It would seem that the only time a massive, quick reply comes, is when someone'* back is against the wall, when time is a non-existent commodity, and frustration levels are high.
I concede to the fact that an apology is warranted, so to that effect, I sincerely apologize for my impatience. I should have thoroughly explained the steps I had already gone through. As this is the first time I've ever used one of these sites, I was ill prepared for the etiquette I should've exerted.
In response to the many derogatory and insulting innuendos, perhaps I'm not the only one who needs to apologize! At least, with extreme frustration and zero time to rectify my problems before they multiply exponentially, I have an excuse for being impatient, and under prepared! But I digress!! I don't have time for all this banter, it seems to me that you could've simply said something to the effect of " hey buddy, I'm giving you a starting point, because I've no idea of what you've tried already!" Forgive me for thinking your reply was short and dismissing! It wasn't the reply I was hoping it would be! Aside from the fact that this is only the second GM vehicle I've ever owned, and as such, am not very familiar with certain components, let'* clear the air on something; yes, you folks that volunteer part of your time, or get paid for part of your time, are the very backbone of helpful sites like this one, and as such, are obviously more skilled in vehicular repairs than I am! That is a given, however, it doesn't mean I'm an imbecile, nor unable to process the ideal of me, being an impatient ***! So, the insults aren't necessary!
For the record, yes, I was impatient and didn't pose my question, and subsequent previous steps correctly! I apologize if my (although slightly humorous) comment of "Monty" supplying you with a consolation prize, was over the top. But, and I say this fully expecting it to be correct, aren't we all men here? This launching insults and innuendos (although mildly entertaining,) isn't really getting any of us anywhere.
So, again I say, I am sorry for any insults, innuendos, or impatience on my part! You tech guys (and gals,) are the very reason sites like this even exist in the first place! Whatever compensation you receive is certainly an understatement to your level of assistance, patience and expertise in helping so many people so expeditiously, and I appreciate your assistance!! Forgive the fact that I have three vehicles all down at the same time, no money, no income to speak of, (long story,) and no time in which to rectify these issues, and get a single vehicle up and running, so I can move on with repairing the remainder of my obstacles. My intentions were never one of a negative aim, I am overwhelmed and frustrated that a simple wiring schematic couldn't be found on the entirety of the internet, without first creating some unnecessary account, putting down a credit card, (that later would've undoubtedly been "accidentally ' charged for some unforseen reason due to the "fine print" that I neglected to see,) or pay $19.99 for something that used to be looked up for free! After spending DAYS searching in vain, I was finally left with no alternative, than to create an account, and ask for help, (which is something I try never to do, unless I have no other options, to both, the creating of an account, and asking for help. (For painfully obvious reasons to all those involved now.)
I sometimes "don't play well with others," and, again, I apologize for my impatience and resulting attitude!
Now that we have dispensed with that giant time wasting expedition... I thank you for the bits of information that has come through, in between the insults, (however warranted.) That is very useful data, and I appreciate it immensely! The only thing that remains, after applying the suggestions given, is to trace, and reconnect the few remaining "stragglers" (cut and dangling wires,) to one or both of the wiring harnesses contained within the steering column. If it isn't too much trouble, would you be so kind as to provide me with either, the page from the service manual, (on a 2000 Oldsmobile Bravada, with the 4.3liter V-6) that clearly shows the two wiring harnesses inside the steering column, and where those wires connect to? Or... Any diagrams or schematics that show where each wire goes inside the column itself? (i.e. the ignition wires, the turn signals, high/low beam switch, etc.)
With the other questions already answered, (thank you again for that information,) I believe that I can finish with the first vehicle repair, as soon as I have the wiring diagram that I alone, cannot locate!
Thank you for all of your hard work, perseverance, and tolerance of a**holes like me! No hard feelings at my end!
Sincerely,
One frustrated, impatient a**hole!
(aka 2000OldsmobileOwner)
*Keep up the great work! *
Ok! It would seem that the only time a massive, quick reply comes, is when someone'* back is against the wall, when time is a non-existent commodity, and frustration levels are high.
I concede to the fact that an apology is warranted, so to that effect, I sincerely apologize for my impatience. I should have thoroughly explained the steps I had already gone through. As this is the first time I've ever used one of these sites, I was ill prepared for the etiquette I should've exerted.
In response to the many derogatory and insulting innuendos, perhaps I'm not the only one who needs to apologize! At least, with extreme frustration and zero time to rectify my problems before they multiply exponentially, I have an excuse for being impatient, and under prepared! But I digress!! I don't have time for all this banter, it seems to me that you could've simply said something to the effect of " hey buddy, I'm giving you a starting point, because I've no idea of what you've tried already!" Forgive me for thinking your reply was short and dismissing! It wasn't the reply I was hoping it would be! Aside from the fact that this is only the second GM vehicle I've ever owned, and as such, am not very familiar with certain components, let'* clear the air on something; yes, you folks that volunteer part of your time, or get paid for part of your time, are the very backbone of helpful sites like this one, and as such, are obviously more skilled in vehicular repairs than I am! That is a given, however, it doesn't mean I'm an imbecile, nor unable to process the ideal of me, being an impatient ***! So, the insults aren't necessary!
For the record, yes, I was impatient and didn't pose my question, and subsequent previous steps correctly! I apologize if my (although slightly humorous) comment of "Monty" supplying you with a consolation prize, was over the top. But, and I say this fully expecting it to be correct, aren't we all men here? This launching insults and innuendos (although mildly entertaining,) isn't really getting any of us anywhere.
So, again I say, I am sorry for any insults, innuendos, or impatience on my part! You tech guys (and gals,) are the very reason sites like this even exist in the first place! Whatever compensation you receive is certainly an understatement to your level of assistance, patience and expertise in helping so many people so expeditiously, and I appreciate your assistance!! Forgive the fact that I have three vehicles all down at the same time, no money, no income to speak of, (long story,) and no time in which to rectify these issues, and get a single vehicle up and running, so I can move on with repairing the remainder of my obstacles. My intentions were never one of a negative aim, I am overwhelmed and frustrated that a simple wiring schematic couldn't be found on the entirety of the internet, without first creating some unnecessary account, putting down a credit card, (that later would've undoubtedly been "accidentally ' charged for some unforseen reason due to the "fine print" that I neglected to see,) or pay $19.99 for something that used to be looked up for free! After spending DAYS searching in vain, I was finally left with no alternative, than to create an account, and ask for help, (which is something I try never to do, unless I have no other options, to both, the creating of an account, and asking for help. (For painfully obvious reasons to all those involved now.)
I sometimes "don't play well with others," and, again, I apologize for my impatience and resulting attitude!
Now that we have dispensed with that giant time wasting expedition... I thank you for the bits of information that has come through, in between the insults, (however warranted.) That is very useful data, and I appreciate it immensely! The only thing that remains, after applying the suggestions given, is to trace, and reconnect the few remaining "stragglers" (cut and dangling wires,) to one or both of the wiring harnesses contained within the steering column. If it isn't too much trouble, would you be so kind as to provide me with either, the page from the service manual, (on a 2000 Oldsmobile Bravada, with the 4.3liter V-6) that clearly shows the two wiring harnesses inside the steering column, and where those wires connect to? Or... Any diagrams or schematics that show where each wire goes inside the column itself? (i.e. the ignition wires, the turn signals, high/low beam switch, etc.)
With the other questions already answered, (thank you again for that information,) I believe that I can finish with the first vehicle repair, as soon as I have the wiring diagram that I alone, cannot locate!
Thank you for all of your hard work, perseverance, and tolerance of a**holes like me! No hard feelings at my end!
Sincerely,
One frustrated, impatient a**hole!
(aka 2000OldsmobileOwner)
*Keep up the great work! *
08-11-2023, 11:42 PM
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Duplicate thread. Original for this issue is at: https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...iagram-314747/
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08-11-2023, 11:42 PM
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08-22-2023, 10:49 PM
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00 Olds Bravada post theft issues
Wait! Where did the 45 minute post go? Aaaargh! Please tell me it posted! For the love of God, please tell me all that typing, and a sore back amounted to a post.
08-22-2023, 11:32 PM
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00 Olds Bravada post theft issues
Words cannot explain what I am experiencing at this moment! Frustration doesn't come close to describing what I have gone through...
I will skip all the venting, and whom did what to whom, and all that nonsense!
Here'* where I am currently after burning through two months worth of data in about ten days!!!
After untold dozens upon dozens of videos and countless hours reading, I have managed to make some progress, however with every success, there comes with it an ensuing failure!
I have successfully discovered what all the wires that some inept thief tore apart when trying to steal this vehicle.
The wires that make up the ignition switch consist of four sets of wires, as best I can tell.
Directly under where the key is inserted is the main ignition switch block. In that block are mostly heavy guage wires, (8 guage I'd guess.) On the side of this block sits three posts... One blank and two spots for thinner wires (12 guage I'd say.) Fr ee floating I found two matching (12 guage) wires - one white and one yellow. After an eternity of searching, I found one clear image of what the back of this block looks like. (It is normally covered in an opaque plastic cover to prevent shorts.) I have soldered the yellow wire to the outside post and the yellow to the center post, leaving the blank post sitting next to that wire.
Next I discovered a 2 wired "plunger" that connects to the backside of the ignition housing, (I'm guessing the steering wheel lock?) It is connected (with a thinner wiring, perhaps 14 or 16 guage wires, but not attached to anything.)
Next I have equally thin (14 or 16 guage) wires, one brown and one green. The ends have connectors soldered on, but (I'm guessing) the button that should be the key sensor, (that tells the computer when the key is inserted.) Is missing, thus not connected to anything. (Does the computer register the key by closing the circuit, or by opening the circuit?)
Next I have a 3 wire group, (equally thin wires as the last group,) one yellow, one red with a white stripe, and one orange with a black stripe. These are connected to what I understand to be the (Passlock 2) security feature. Which consists of a small black plug, and it is plugged into a small chip board, (but not mounted anywhere.)
*Note* I have soldered in the recommended 2.2k resistor between the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire, and heat shrink wrapped to avoid any shorting. This is the recommended bypass method of the Passlock 2 security feature.
To recap:
The detached (12 guage) wires have been reattached to the main ignition switch block... white in the middle, with the white on one side and the blank post on the other. It has been snapped back into place under the ignition housing.
The 3 wire (16 guage) security feature wires have been reattached to the (existing) plug and computer chip board. A 2.2k resistor has been soldered in place. With one side of the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange and black wire to the other side of the resistor.
The remaining 2 wire group (also 16 guage) one brown and one green, each has a connector attached, but are not connected to the (missing button, that I'm guessing is the key sensor.) These are taped, (covered but not touching.)
After reviewing the cylinder housing carefully, I have discovered that the entire ignition cylinder, and whatever is supposed to be attached to that, are missing. (The unsuccessful thief took these with him as a souvenir, since he couldn't steal the vehicle?) Dumbass!!
Which brings me to (hopefully) the final segment in what has been an absolute nightmare so far!
I need to remove the steering wheel, and after disconnecting the negative battery cable, pulling the airbag fuse, and disconnecting the airbag sensor, (located under the center console, and under the Bose amplifier,) Installed no doubt by an Asian with the hands of a nine year old girl! For **** sake!
I am a bit scared to pry off the center airbag cover of the steering wheel, (unless that is what'* required,) Because I can find no clips/bolts/torx headed or otherwise, holding this on.
So, any help would be greatly appreciated, and if I made any previous comments that seemed disrespectful or derogatory, I apologize, as this vehicle has proven to be the very bain of my existence!
Thank you again, and I await your response.
Sincerely,
Sam Adams (and no beer guy jokes huh?)
I will skip all the venting, and whom did what to whom, and all that nonsense!
Here'* where I am currently after burning through two months worth of data in about ten days!!!
After untold dozens upon dozens of videos and countless hours reading, I have managed to make some progress, however with every success, there comes with it an ensuing failure!
I have successfully discovered what all the wires that some inept thief tore apart when trying to steal this vehicle.
The wires that make up the ignition switch consist of four sets of wires, as best I can tell.
Directly under where the key is inserted is the main ignition switch block. In that block are mostly heavy guage wires, (8 guage I'd guess.) On the side of this block sits three posts... One blank and two spots for thinner wires (12 guage I'd say.) Fr ee floating I found two matching (12 guage) wires - one white and one yellow. After an eternity of searching, I found one clear image of what the back of this block looks like. (It is normally covered in an opaque plastic cover to prevent shorts.) I have soldered the yellow wire to the outside post and the yellow to the center post, leaving the blank post sitting next to that wire.
Next I discovered a 2 wired "plunger" that connects to the backside of the ignition housing, (I'm guessing the steering wheel lock?) It is connected (with a thinner wiring, perhaps 14 or 16 guage wires, but not attached to anything.)
Next I have equally thin (14 or 16 guage) wires, one brown and one green. The ends have connectors soldered on, but (I'm guessing) the button that should be the key sensor, (that tells the computer when the key is inserted.) Is missing, thus not connected to anything. (Does the computer register the key by closing the circuit, or by opening the circuit?)
Next I have a 3 wire group, (equally thin wires as the last group,) one yellow, one red with a white stripe, and one orange with a black stripe. These are connected to what I understand to be the (Passlock 2) security feature. Which consists of a small black plug, and it is plugged into a small chip board, (but not mounted anywhere.)
*Note* I have soldered in the recommended 2.2k resistor between the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire, and heat shrink wrapped to avoid any shorting. This is the recommended bypass method of the Passlock 2 security feature.
To recap:
The detached (12 guage) wires have been reattached to the main ignition switch block... white in the middle, with the white on one side and the blank post on the other. It has been snapped back into place under the ignition housing.
The 3 wire (16 guage) security feature wires have been reattached to the (existing) plug and computer chip board. A 2.2k resistor has been soldered in place. With one side of the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange and black wire to the other side of the resistor.
The remaining 2 wire group (also 16 guage) one brown and one green, each has a connector attached, but are not connected to the (missing button, that I'm guessing is the key sensor.) These are taped, (covered but not touching.)
After reviewing the cylinder housing carefully, I have discovered that the entire ignition cylinder, and whatever is supposed to be attached to that, are missing. (The unsuccessful thief took these with him as a souvenir, since he couldn't steal the vehicle?) Dumbass!!
Which brings me to (hopefully) the final segment in what has been an absolute nightmare so far!
I need to remove the steering wheel, and after disconnecting the negative battery cable, pulling the airbag fuse, and disconnecting the airbag sensor, (located under the center console, and under the Bose amplifier,) Installed no doubt by an Asian with the hands of a nine year old girl! For **** sake!
I am a bit scared to pry off the center airbag cover of the steering wheel, (unless that is what'* required,) Because I can find no clips/bolts/torx headed or otherwise, holding this on.
So, any help would be greatly appreciated, and if I made any previous comments that seemed disrespectful or derogatory, I apologize, as this vehicle has proven to be the very bain of my existence!
Thank you again, and I await your response.
Sincerely,
Sam Adams (and no beer guy jokes huh?)
08-22-2023, 11:33 PM
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00 Olds Bravada post theft issues
Words cannot explain what I am experiencing at this moment! Frustration doesn't come close to describing what I have gone through...
I will skip all the venting, and whom did what to whom, and all that nonsense!
Here'* where I am currently after burning through two months worth of data in about ten days!!!
After untold dozens upon dozens of videos and countless hours reading, I have managed to make some progress, however with every success, there comes with it an ensuing failure!
I have successfully discovered what all the wires that some inept thief tore apart when trying to steal this vehicle.
The wires that make up the ignition switch consist of four sets of wires, as best I can tell.
Directly under where the key is inserted is the main ignition switch block. In that block are mostly heavy guage wires, (8 guage I'd guess.) On the side of this block sits three posts... One blank and two spots for thinner wires (12 guage I'd say.) Fr ee floating I found two matching (12 guage) wires - one white and one yellow. After an eternity of searching, I found one clear image of what the back of this block looks like. (It is normally covered in an opaque plastic cover to prevent shorts.) I have soldered the yellow wire to the outside post and the yellow to the center post, leaving the blank post sitting next to that wire.
Next I discovered a 2 wired "plunger" that connects to the backside of the ignition housing, (I'm guessing the steering wheel lock?) It is connected (with a thinner wiring, perhaps 14 or 16 guage wires, but not attached to anything.)
Next I have equally thin (14 or 16 guage) wires, one brown and one green. The ends have connectors soldered on, but (I'm guessing) the button that should be the key sensor, (that tells the computer when the key is inserted.) Is missing, thus not connected to anything. (Does the computer register the key by closing the circuit, or by opening the circuit?)
Next I have a 3 wire group, (equally thin wires as the last group,) one yellow, one red with a white stripe, and one orange with a black stripe. These are connected to what I understand to be the (Passlock 2) security feature. Which consists of a small black plug, and it is plugged into a small chip board, (but not mounted anywhere.)
*Note* I have soldered in the recommended 2.2k resistor between the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire, and heat shrink wrapped to avoid any shorting. This is the recommended bypass method of the Passlock 2 security feature.
To recap:
The detached (12 guage) wires have been reattached to the main ignition switch block... white in the middle, with the white on one side and the blank post on the other. It has been snapped back into place under the ignition housing.
The 3 wire (16 guage) security feature wires have been reattached to the (existing) plug and computer chip board. A 2.2k resistor has been soldered in place. With one side of the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange and black wire to the other side of the resistor.
The remaining 2 wire group (also 16 guage) one brown and one green, each has a connector attached, but are not connected to the (missing button, that I'm guessing is the key sensor.) These are taped, (covered but not touching.)
After reviewing the cylinder housing carefully, I have discovered that the entire ignition cylinder, and whatever is supposed to be attached to that, are missing. (The unsuccessful thief took these with him as a souvenir, since he couldn't steal the vehicle?) Dumbass!!
Which brings me to (hopefully) the final segment in what has been an absolute nightmare so far!
I need to remove the steering wheel, and after disconnecting the negative battery cable, pulling the airbag fuse, and disconnecting the airbag sensor, (located under the center console, and under the Bose amplifier,) Installed no doubt by an Asian with the hands of a nine year old girl! For **** sake!
I am a bit scared to pry off the center airbag cover of the steering wheel, (unless that is what'* required,) Because I can find no clips/bolts/torx headed or otherwise, holding this on.
So, any help would be greatly appreciated, and if I made any previous comments that seemed disrespectful or derogatory, I apologize, as this vehicle has proven to be the very bain of my existence!
Thank you again, and I await your response.
Sincerely,
Sam Adams (and no beer guy jokes huh?)
I will skip all the venting, and whom did what to whom, and all that nonsense!
Here'* where I am currently after burning through two months worth of data in about ten days!!!
After untold dozens upon dozens of videos and countless hours reading, I have managed to make some progress, however with every success, there comes with it an ensuing failure!
I have successfully discovered what all the wires that some inept thief tore apart when trying to steal this vehicle.
The wires that make up the ignition switch consist of four sets of wires, as best I can tell.
Directly under where the key is inserted is the main ignition switch block. In that block are mostly heavy guage wires, (8 guage I'd guess.) On the side of this block sits three posts... One blank and two spots for thinner wires (12 guage I'd say.) Fr ee floating I found two matching (12 guage) wires - one white and one yellow. After an eternity of searching, I found one clear image of what the back of this block looks like. (It is normally covered in an opaque plastic cover to prevent shorts.) I have soldered the yellow wire to the outside post and the yellow to the center post, leaving the blank post sitting next to that wire.
Next I discovered a 2 wired "plunger" that connects to the backside of the ignition housing, (I'm guessing the steering wheel lock?) It is connected (with a thinner wiring, perhaps 14 or 16 guage wires, but not attached to anything.)
Next I have equally thin (14 or 16 guage) wires, one brown and one green. The ends have connectors soldered on, but (I'm guessing) the button that should be the key sensor, (that tells the computer when the key is inserted.) Is missing, thus not connected to anything. (Does the computer register the key by closing the circuit, or by opening the circuit?)
Next I have a 3 wire group, (equally thin wires as the last group,) one yellow, one red with a white stripe, and one orange with a black stripe. These are connected to what I understand to be the (Passlock 2) security feature. Which consists of a small black plug, and it is plugged into a small chip board, (but not mounted anywhere.)
*Note* I have soldered in the recommended 2.2k resistor between the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire, and heat shrink wrapped to avoid any shorting. This is the recommended bypass method of the Passlock 2 security feature.
To recap:
The detached (12 guage) wires have been reattached to the main ignition switch block... white in the middle, with the white on one side and the blank post on the other. It has been snapped back into place under the ignition housing.
The 3 wire (16 guage) security feature wires have been reattached to the (existing) plug and computer chip board. A 2.2k resistor has been soldered in place. With one side of the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange and black wire to the other side of the resistor.
The remaining 2 wire group (also 16 guage) one brown and one green, each has a connector attached, but are not connected to the (missing button, that I'm guessing is the key sensor.) These are taped, (covered but not touching.)
After reviewing the cylinder housing carefully, I have discovered that the entire ignition cylinder, and whatever is supposed to be attached to that, are missing. (The unsuccessful thief took these with him as a souvenir, since he couldn't steal the vehicle?) Dumbass!!
Which brings me to (hopefully) the final segment in what has been an absolute nightmare so far!
I need to remove the steering wheel, and after disconnecting the negative battery cable, pulling the airbag fuse, and disconnecting the airbag sensor, (located under the center console, and under the Bose amplifier,) Installed no doubt by an Asian with the hands of a nine year old girl! For **** sake!
I am a bit scared to pry off the center airbag cover of the steering wheel, (unless that is what'* required,) Because I can find no clips/bolts/torx headed or otherwise, holding this on.
So, any help would be greatly appreciated, and if I made any previous comments that seemed disrespectful or derogatory, I apologize, as this vehicle has proven to be the very bain of my existence!
Thank you again, and I await your response.
Sincerely,
Sam Adams (and no beer guy jokes huh?)
08-23-2023, 03:56 AM
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08-23-2023, 04:29 AM
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Words cannot explain what I am experiencing at this moment! Frustration doesn't come close to describing what I have gone through...
I will skip all the venting, and whom did what to whom, and all that nonsense!
Here'* where I am currently after burning through two months worth of data in about ten days!!!
After untold dozens upon dozens of videos and countless hours reading, I have managed to make some progress, however with every success, there comes with it an ensuing failure!
I have successfully discovered what all the wires that some inept thief tore apart when trying to steal this vehicle.
The wires that make up the ignition switch consist of four sets of wires, as best I can tell.
Directly under where the key is inserted is the main ignition switch block. In that block are mostly heavy guage wires, (8 guage I'd guess.) On the side of this block sits three posts... One blank and two spots for thinner wires (12 guage I'd say.) Fr ee floating I found two matching (12 guage) wires - one white and one yellow. After an eternity of searching, I found one clear image of what the back of this block looks like. (It is normally covered in an opaque plastic cover to prevent shorts.) I have soldered the yellow wire to the outside post and the yellow to the center post, leaving the blank post sitting next to that wire.
Next I discovered a 2 wired "plunger" that connects to the backside of the ignition housing, (I'm guessing the steering wheel lock?) It is connected (with a thinner wiring, perhaps 14 or 16 guage wires, but not attached to anything.)
Next I have equally thin (14 or 16 guage) wires, one brown and one green. The ends have connectors soldered on, but (I'm guessing) the button that should be the key sensor, (that tells the computer when the key is inserted.) Is missing, thus not connected to anything. (Does the computer register the key by closing the circuit, or by opening the circuit?)
Next I have a 3 wire group, (equally thin wires as the last group,) one yellow, one red with a white stripe, and one orange with a black stripe. These are connected to what I understand to be the (Passlock 2) security feature. Which consists of a small black plug, and it is plugged into a small chip board, (but not mounted anywhere.)
*Note* I have soldered in the recommended 2.2k resistor between the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire, and heat shrink wrapped to avoid any shorting. This is the recommended bypass method of the Passlock 2 security feature.
To recap:
The detached (12 guage) wires have been reattached to the main ignition switch block... white in the middle, with the white on one side and the blank post on the other. It has been snapped back into place under the ignition housing.
The 3 wire (16 guage) security feature wires have been reattached to the (existing) plug and computer chip board. A 2.2k resistor has been soldered in place. With one side of the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange and black wire to the other side of the resistor.
The remaining 2 wire group (also 16 guage) one brown and one green, each has a connector attached, but are not connected to the (missing button, that I'm guessing is the key sensor.) These are taped, (covered but not touching.)
After reviewing the cylinder housing carefully, I have discovered that the entire ignition cylinder, and whatever is supposed to be attached to that, are missing. (The unsuccessful thief took these with him as a souvenir, since he couldn't steal the vehicle?) Dumbass!!
Which brings me to (hopefully) the final segment in what has been an absolute nightmare so far!
I need to remove the steering wheel, and after disconnecting the negative battery cable, pulling the airbag fuse, and disconnecting the airbag sensor, (located under the center console, and under the Bose amplifier,) Installed no doubt by an Asian with the hands of a nine year old girl! For **** sake!
I am a bit scared to pry off the center airbag cover of the steering wheel, (unless that is what'* required,) Because I can find no clips/bolts/torx headed or otherwise, holding this on.
So, any help would be greatly appreciated, and if I made any previous comments that seemed disrespectful or derogatory, I apologize, as this vehicle has proven to be the very bain of my existence!
Thank you again, and I await your response.
Sincerely,
Sam Adams (and no beer guy jokes huh?)
I will skip all the venting, and whom did what to whom, and all that nonsense!
Here'* where I am currently after burning through two months worth of data in about ten days!!!
After untold dozens upon dozens of videos and countless hours reading, I have managed to make some progress, however with every success, there comes with it an ensuing failure!
I have successfully discovered what all the wires that some inept thief tore apart when trying to steal this vehicle.
The wires that make up the ignition switch consist of four sets of wires, as best I can tell.
Directly under where the key is inserted is the main ignition switch block. In that block are mostly heavy guage wires, (8 guage I'd guess.) On the side of this block sits three posts... One blank and two spots for thinner wires (12 guage I'd say.) Fr ee floating I found two matching (12 guage) wires - one white and one yellow. After an eternity of searching, I found one clear image of what the back of this block looks like. (It is normally covered in an opaque plastic cover to prevent shorts.) I have soldered the yellow wire to the outside post and the yellow to the center post, leaving the blank post sitting next to that wire.
Next I discovered a 2 wired "plunger" that connects to the backside of the ignition housing, (I'm guessing the steering wheel lock?) It is connected (with a thinner wiring, perhaps 14 or 16 guage wires, but not attached to anything.)
Next I have equally thin (14 or 16 guage) wires, one brown and one green. The ends have connectors soldered on, but (I'm guessing) the button that should be the key sensor, (that tells the computer when the key is inserted.) Is missing, thus not connected to anything. (Does the computer register the key by closing the circuit, or by opening the circuit?)
Next I have a 3 wire group, (equally thin wires as the last group,) one yellow, one red with a white stripe, and one orange with a black stripe. These are connected to what I understand to be the (Passlock 2) security feature. Which consists of a small black plug, and it is plugged into a small chip board, (but not mounted anywhere.)
*Note* I have soldered in the recommended 2.2k resistor between the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire, and heat shrink wrapped to avoid any shorting. This is the recommended bypass method of the Passlock 2 security feature.
To recap:
The detached (12 guage) wires have been reattached to the main ignition switch block... white in the middle, with the white on one side and the blank post on the other. It has been snapped back into place under the ignition housing.
The 3 wire (16 guage) security feature wires have been reattached to the (existing) plug and computer chip board. A 2.2k resistor has been soldered in place. With one side of the (cut) yellow wire, and the (bared) orange and black wire to the other side of the resistor.
The remaining 2 wire group (also 16 guage) one brown and one green, each has a connector attached, but are not connected to the (missing button, that I'm guessing is the key sensor.) These are taped, (covered but not touching.)
After reviewing the cylinder housing carefully, I have discovered that the entire ignition cylinder, and whatever is supposed to be attached to that, are missing. (The unsuccessful thief took these with him as a souvenir, since he couldn't steal the vehicle?) Dumbass!!
Which brings me to (hopefully) the final segment in what has been an absolute nightmare so far!
I need to remove the steering wheel, and after disconnecting the negative battery cable, pulling the airbag fuse, and disconnecting the airbag sensor, (located under the center console, and under the Bose amplifier,) Installed no doubt by an Asian with the hands of a nine year old girl! For **** sake!
I am a bit scared to pry off the center airbag cover of the steering wheel, (unless that is what'* required,) Because I can find no clips/bolts/torx headed or otherwise, holding this on.
So, any help would be greatly appreciated, and if I made any previous comments that seemed disrespectful or derogatory, I apologize, as this vehicle has proven to be the very bain of my existence!
Thank you again, and I await your response.
Sincerely,
Sam Adams (and no beer guy jokes huh?)
What is the plunger thing? Steering wheel lock? I need to pull the steering wheel to access the backside of the showing ignition housing. I'm leary to pry on the airbag cover... The thief took the ignition cylinder and whatever attaches to the back of it, that would allow one to start it with a screwdriver, hence the ignition housing is visible at the back of this gaping hole. I'm guessing the inept thief took these things as souvenirs because he couldn't steal the vehicle? Dumbass!
The white and yellow wires (on the left,) have been reattached (soldered) to two of the three posts showing.
This was how I found the wires to the security feature. Not sure what he was trying to accomplish. The green and brown wires are to the key sensor (I believe,) The bared wires have been repaired, and the resistor has been soldered into the yellow (cut) wire, and the (bared) orange/black wire.
I've soldered these two (yellow and white) wires onto the posts showing. (See above post for which one went where.)
Took forever to locate the name of this mystery piece. The ignition switch...really? Why aren't parts like this more readily researchable? It took 10gb of data to locate an actual picture of this side of the switch, as it is usually covered in an opaque plastic to prevent shorting. The thicker white and yellow wires belong on two of the three showing posts, with the original solder still attached. (See above post for which wire got soldered to which post.
How I found it after the attempted theft.
08-23-2023, 11:55 PM
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Combined duplicate threads for the same issue. Former duplicate threads were:
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...nition-314748/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...issues-314760/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...issues-314761/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...issues-314762/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...nition-314748/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...issues-314760/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...issues-314761/
https://www.gmforum.com/oldsmobile-1...issues-314762/
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