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Old 01-25-2014, 02:16 AM   #1
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Last year I replaced the struts along with the the upper mounts for them, the lower spring isolator and the coil spring itself looked fine but only after about 8k on the new struts it is starting to ride like a lumber wagon again. All of the bump you can fell in you back so I'm starting to wonder if I should have bought new springs when I did the work on the front struts. Also I don't know if this anything useful but I can collapse the coil springs about a half of an inch with my bare hands. So with this being said I'm needing some help on finding the right springs for the front end of my car. All of the front coil springs I have look at are for the smaller 2.4L engines with the manual transmission, well I have the 3.1L engine with the Automatic Transmission. I don't really know of any other GM model of cars that would work or interchange with my front coil spring wise. Last year I ran into the same problem with the rear springs because I need to replace them so I took the gamble and bought the rear coil springs for a 96 Grand Am and the are doing great with almost 20k on them but I didn't know if I could due the same thing for the front coil spring or not so I'm turning to everyone to see if I can due the same thing to the front of the car or not. Tre rear springs were replace at 80k along with new shocks and the front struts were replace at 90k. I bought the car with 79,500 miles on it. Thanks.
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sounds like the struts are bad. what ones did you buy and how many miles? out of all the cars i have had at 2-300k and all the cars i work on i have only replaced one spring. it was on my moms old impala and it was physically broke, it has always been the struts that are bad and i dont like quick struts because your stock ones are the right ones for your car and worn even
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I bought the Gabriel Ultras from my Local Auto Zone. They now have about 8k on them. I never have been a big fan of the Monroe brand.
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i think i would buy monroe before gabriel, but i wouldnt buy either. i only buy kyb gr2 or excel g for my drivers. amazon has them for cheap(relatively) because i have never had to buy two sets for one car they always outlast my ownership
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Well I just found out that the front springs have completely collapsed on the car by a lot. My step sad help me compare the maxed compression length along with full uncompressed length and mine are no were near what they are suppose to be. On the new coil springs the full compressed length is 9.1 inches and the full uncompressed length is 14.8 inches. The measurements for my coil springs is 8 inches fully compressed and 12 inches fully uncompressed. That is a big difference in my opinion. So does this mean I need new springs or what. Also here is the link to the front springs, they will be under a 96 Grand Am since the springs are not available for my Oldsmobile. Duralast/Coil Spring - Front (FCS638V) | 1996 Pontiac Grand Am 6 Cylinders M 3.1L SFI OHV | AutoZone.com.
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an inch difference on the car from new doesnt seem that big of a deal to me. springs settle over time and that doesnt mean they wont be good enough to use. and if anything that would make it more old caddy type ride anyway if its stiff that has more to do with the strut IMO
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So due you think it would be a good idea to replace the springs along with warrantying out the struts or not. The car itself passes the bound test, it only does about one bounce.
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i always just replace the struts and dont worry about the springs as i said it just poor quality struts IMO. if you want to do the work again a bunch of times you can keep trading them in on warranty or you can get better ones and not worry about it again

235604 235605 are the kyb fronts for your car, it says on their site they are different left to right on your car. i just go to amazon and buy them from the just suspension one if you dont mind waiting 3 weeks, buy it from amazon itself if you want to pay more and get it faster
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What about the rear shocks they two are the Gabriel Ultras, will it hurt to mix and match suspension components or not.
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i dont think it would make much difference as long as its not side to side different
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