Gah.

You can disable that security crap, and you can enable the hidden admin account pretty easily. MS did this to make Vista idiot proof from all the dumb users out there.

O2k7 is pretty nice. I think they did a great job with it.

But I agree, SP1 is when it will really take off.

Old joke that holds true:
Windows Product Release Chart Translation:
"Windows Beta" = Alpha
"Windows Release" = Beta
"Windows SP1" = RC
"Windows SP2" = Ready for release.

Vista does not have a lot of the preinstalled drivers and a lot of software is not compatible with Vista.
I have vista and it is a pain in the ***, it is a memory hog. My machine has 1.5 gigs of RAM but running vista, that is just to run it reasonably well.

In vista, if you uninstall and reinstall a program, it simply will not work.

Vista has a lot of eye candy but that is about it

Go with XP. XP was **** back in 1999-2000 but right now it is superior to vista.

yes vista does have alot of missing drivers for older products, but thats only because they are trying to move us into the future! anything that doesn't work with vista is obsolete IMO. it sounds a bit final, but I'm discovering that its quite nice to keep it simple.

yes you can, ive done it quite a few times already with about 5 different programs. works flawlessly.

and since XP was not even released until late 2001, i'd be very interested to know what XP you were using in 99-2k.

i will repeat once again. YOU WILL NOT LIKE VISTA IMMEDIATELY. It is a memory hog, it does have alot of useless features, but it ALSO has a HUGE amount of hidden/integrated features that no one seems to focus on. If you spend a little while with the system, you can disable all those stupid features and still be left with the good ones. And I right now am running vista on 1gb FLAWLESSLY. At first it was awful, but I weeded through everything and got it to run extremely fast and efficiently. anything above home basic was meant to run on a minimum 2gb of memory, once again, moving into the future. we didn't reject upgrading our hard drive space did we? otherwise we would still be going, wow, you have to have a WHOLE GB hard drive?! Time is moving pretty fast, technology is moving about 10x. I still like XP alot for slower systems, its one of the best operating systems in the world, its so stable that its scary. but sure, you can wait, and get acquainted with vista later, only you can make the difference, but nearly ALL new programs and almost ALL new hardware is already compatible.

if you want vista just buy a mac with mac X on it cause it'* the same thing a vista except it actually works. And this is coming from someone that won't buy a Mac

John, are you calling Trillian old?

and a few games that are only 1 year old?


Most people dont want to Buy or Get all new software just to use a newer OS. thats a real PITA.

It'* called progression. This is how it'* gonna be from now on.

Besides, I installed Vista on two of my computers and had no driver issues at all. You guys must run some funky hardware.

And it looks like a memory hog, but the OS just has a new way of handling memory. I think it treats free memory as cache.

Or you could buy a Mac that looks "cool" and "pretty" and get stuck using proprietary hardware.

But we don't want to move to the future. Our future ended in 2005

If you are buying a new, preconfigured machine you do not need to worry about drivers; they will already be installed.

The software and driver issues are not the fault of MS. The hardware and software venders who are too lazy to use the development tools that have been available for a year or more are the problem.

XP is not going to be supported forever, do you want to spend the time and money upgrading when support runs out?

Pay for an OS??? People actually do that???