Did you ever see "Office Space"? This reminds me of how Peter explained to the Bobs that he only works just hard enough to not get fired. If that is the only incentive or motivation that you have, I'd start looking for another job now. This is an observation about your employer, not you. It sounds like their goal is to keep you more worried about losing your job so you aren't thinking about all the commission they aren't paying you.

It would be cool if the knock was just a bad harmonic balancer pulley and they sold you the car for next to nothing to get rid of it. You should go check the belt and see if you can roll it at the alt pulley. If it has play, offer them $300 bucks just to get the GM off their lot and then put a pulley on it for $100. I'd laugh so hard...

Unfortunatly the Buick wasn't traded in. He'* having the car towed to his parents house.

Your right about the office space analogy sorta except I'm a damn hard worker and that'* been acknoledged by management that I work harder than guys who have been there longer, yet there is just constant pushing for more sales, more money, more customers. I told them when I was hired I want to move up to management but who knows if that'll happen or if I'd want it.

Technical Ted...indeed I do work for a huge dealership. I feel bad driving American and not really liking the foreign cars, but they sell and I've gotta make a living. The other dealerships just don't have a pay plan that compares and I really don't see the point of selling American cars and not being able to make enough money to pay the bills....not like I'm making a ton now anyways though.

Tell them you are there to sell cars people want. If someone wants a certain car, it'* hard to convince them otherwise. If I went to a cross-manufacturer dealership to look at a Pontiac, and the guy kept trying to pull me over to Toyotas, I'd leave. Because he obviously wasn't listening to what I wanted.

It seems everyone I talk to tells me to get a Toyota....my reply is typically..."What? The Toyota repair techs and mechanics sit all day on their asses doing nothing?, they're fixin Toyotas, like every other car that breaks at some point."

That usually shuts em up.

Toyota styling these days is the equivalent of buttered bread. I'm with Jerry though, at least in the 80'* their product was somewhat exciting.

IDK the camry new Camry SE looks hott

Alrighty, so the Buick Lesabre the guy I work with has has issues with the upper and lower intake manifold for sure. He had it checked out at a shop. Anybody interested, let me know, he'* now selling the car! Unfortunatly it'* not the belt.

SEcond, the Camry SE is a damn hot looking vehicle, buttttttt.........I just drove the 4 cyl Malibu 2LT last night and I deffinatly think it by far beats the Camry SE 4 cyl in price and styling!!! Too bad the resale value will suck later!! Awesome car to lease though!!!

The other thing is that the mechanics at my dealership wish for more work. There just isn't enough business because the damn Toyotas really don't break....at least in the first few years. I just had a guy with a 2001 Camry with computer problems yesterday!
Anyways....yes....the Toyota mechanics really do with for more work. There constantly sent home early or not getting overtime becuase there isn't enought work.

Lastly, I just told a guy the other day that if I wanted to buy a different car it'd be a Bonneville GXP.... he used to be a die hard Bonneville owner but failed the car due to lack of maintenance and bought a Toyota.

For some reason I thought the same thing, I would still never want one, and after riding in my friends new Camry, I DEFINITELY do not want one. EVERYTHING is in the center of the car, all the guages, and controls are off to your right, the speedo is so out of the way. Only thing remaining in front of you is the steering wheel and the signal column....and pedals :? I'm sure the Scion tC is the same way (The car one, no sure if its a tC or w/e)

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Dude, we all are entitled to our own opinions, but man that camry is BUTT ugly
I can't stand looking at the thing, and the faux art-deco interior design just KILLS the interior. I think the previous generation looked a lot better, a lot cleaner. Then again, I think most of Toyota'* new designs are horrible. They're chunky and bloated (I guess that'* redundant, but I wanted to make a point ) and they don't get as good of gas mileage anymore (Tahoe Hybrid gets better combined mileage as the Camry 4-cyl). Contrary to what you might think, I am in no way biased toward any car manufacturer. In fact, I've been considering a Honda Fit, but that will obviously lose me many "man points"

Many man points? Try all of them. The Fit is a weenie car.