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Old 09-21-2010, 11:28 PM   #21
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I think burn outs are a waste of time. I drive my car just enough to start braking them loose. Spinning aint winning.
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thats right
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I think burn outs are a waste of time. I drive my car just enough to start braking them loose. Spinning aint winning.
youre misunderstanding what im saying. im not saying its a good thing to do, but would you not know how to control your car if it ever did break loose?
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Yes. I learned to drive in a rear wheel drive. It'* been a while, sold the vette in June. I also spend nearly half the year with snow and ice on the ground.
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I also spend nearly half the year with snow and ice on the ground.
so do i, thats what i was trying to say though. if you dont know how to control something that could do that, (even, no, ESPECIALLY if youre being an idiot and trying to do it) then you shouldnt be driving it because anything can happen. correcting in a spin out or drift for me is a natural reaction from living in minnesnowta my whole life and actually learning to drive in the winter, that must just be why i see that guy that rolled an expensive truck doing a 30mph burnout as a complete moron. i can understand if he spun them all the way to 60mph or something and then lost control, but a weak burnout into the ditch at low speed? pure stupidity.
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It'* called inexperience. OH MY GOD I'm not going straight anymore. I better slam on the brakes. Back off the gas as soon as you feel it getting squirrely. Turn you front wheels only as far to keep them straight to the direction your going. Know your car, or walk.
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he was prolly drunk
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I'm seeing something a little different than is being mentioned. I see the marks of someone that didn't slow at all for a stop sign, saw another vehicle somewhere in the intersection, slammed on the brakes and steered away from the vehicle and into the tree.

Work with Sr, Investigator Boost here guys.
When a burnout is done (not that I've done my share ) the marks start off very dark and then fade as they move forward.
To leave marks of this length from a burnout would take a considerable amount of power.
The turn of the marks as they fade isn't the mark of a sideways tire, which it would be if this was a slide with a RWD vehicle.
The dotted parts of the marks indicate an ABS system working. To leave ABS dots the vehicle had to be moving rapidly.
The only way a burn out is leaving a dotted lline is wheel hopping. Which would happen at the start of the marks, not a long way down the road.
With or without burning out, how fast could a vehicle get from the beginning of marks to the tree? The tree is showing the damage of a high speed hit.

In conclusion.. it'* a skid mark, not a burn out.
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Great investigating Bill!
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That'* not how I see it. The road in question is not a good road, so high speed is hard to do. Trust me, I drive it every day. I see a brake stand followed by a getting off the gas and traction control kicking in. Car left the road and it was all over. Once in the grass, your just along for the ride.
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