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EagleKammback 08-13-2007 07:46 PM

What do you want to see in the new Camaro
 
I want to see 16 inch wheels, a whole lot of engine and tranny options, measuring the size in cucib inches, and emblems similar to how they were in '69

repinS 08-13-2007 08:00 PM

16's :shock:

It's going to have its ass handed to it in the handling department with those flexy sidewalls if it got 16's.

petraman 08-13-2007 08:01 PM

Re: What do you want to see in the new Camaro
 

Originally Posted by EagleKammback
I want to see 16 inch wheels

:? :lol:

Uhh, I was thinking more along the lines of 20s... In gunmetal grey... ooo that'd be hawt.
Engines:
3.6 VVT
430 hp LS3
and MAYBE a bored out LS3 for the SS?? :-D

6 speed manual better be readily available
6 speed auto would be a great option, with tap-shift

A simplistic interior with the bare essentials: No navigation system, no heated seats or anything like that. Pure functionality. Though, a nice bose stereo would be great too :-D

crzydmnd72 08-13-2007 08:02 PM

ME :D

ga93sle 08-13-2007 08:12 PM

16s? C'mon man, 20s back, 18s front.

Jim W 08-13-2007 08:30 PM

Going fast only in a straight line is over. You wont see any performance car with 16" rims.

EagleKammback 08-13-2007 08:39 PM

I don't care, I HATE the look of big rims maybe 17" rims MAX

harofreak00 08-13-2007 08:52 PM

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these are probably still bigger than 16's on this car ;)

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ga93sle 08-13-2007 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by EagleKammback
I don't care, I HATE the look of big rims maybe 17" rims MAX

You're one of the few, then, better hope it uses the same bolt pattern as something older, F-Bodies or something.

J Wikoff 08-13-2007 09:05 PM

It's gotta have big ol' brakes, the kind that probably won't fit inside 16" wheels.

petraman 08-13-2007 09:11 PM

Yeah, sorry, Eagle, but that's just not the direction the car's going in. It's going in a new techno-retro (yes I made it up) direction, which means small projector headlights, chopped roof, raked back windshield and BIG RIMS! :lol:

SSsuperchargedEi 08-13-2007 10:22 PM

that car is so damned ugly... soo id like to see a complete redesign..

ReallyAGXP 08-13-2007 10:29 PM

It will have 20's out back and likely 19's in front. Brockville Motor sales already had 10 big ones of mine on the Down payment for the #1 car the order. so im getting a little info as it comes out

bonnie94ssei 08-13-2007 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by crzydmnd72
ME :D

:lol:

I don't care too much. I can't wait to see them on the roads, but what they have doesn't matter as my future sports car will be a superior Chevy. :wink:

SSsuperchargedEi 08-13-2007 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by ReallyAGXP
It will have 20's out back and likely 19's in front. Brockville Motor sales already had 10 big ones of mine on the Down payment for the #1 car the order. so im getting a little info as it comes out

whats the damage going to be($$) if you dont mind me asking?

ReallyAGXP 08-13-2007 10:34 PM

I have heard rumors of the SS coming with the 8L but who knows at this point. I don't really care as long as it is the biggest and its either Orange or black on black with orange stripes.

BonneMeMN 08-14-2007 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by ReallyAGXP
I have heard rumors of the SS coming with the 8L but who knows at this point. I don't really care as long as it is the biggest and its either Orange or black on black with orange stripes.

GM will not put a better motor in the Camaro than the Corvette, period. 8L lol...

it'll get a V6 (probably the same as the G8) and a V8 or two.

16" wheels can fit 11-12" rotors MAX from the factory behind them. Think of the 90's bonneville brakes, undersized for the cars. You definetly need bigger going to a sportier car, 20 years after that design (fwd H body) And I doubt they'll be raked (20 and 19") on all models. MAYBE an SS will have raked wheels, but that's a stretch.

EagleKammback 08-14-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by J Wikoff
It's gotta have big ol' brakes, the kind that probably won't fit inside 16" wheels.

That's why you add brakes at the driveshaft too

J Wikoff 08-14-2007 10:38 AM

Probably not. That takes up precious fuel tank/exhaust/trunk/rear seat space. That and they create a low underbody spot.

EagleKammback 08-14-2007 10:40 AM

Narrow the axle and put the brakes behind the wheel so it has more room? Is tat even possible

ReallyAGXP 08-14-2007 10:45 AM

A drive line brake is something you would never see on a North American production car.. Cost plays a huge factor. Anything can be done but the general American isnt interested in that kind of thing.

When I say cost i mean a boat load of money.. We looked at ading it to the truck and it was almost 10 grand by the time all the dev work was done.. Thats something best left for Monster Trucks lol\

I am pretty sure that the new Camaro will have that same exhaust set up the new Vette has and that in a way is an engine brake design.

Shadow 08-14-2007 11:28 AM

Meh...my next money will be on the G8 6.0

petraman 08-14-2007 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Shadow
Meh...my next money will be on the G8 6.0

x2
4 doors > 2 doors

EagleKammback 08-14-2007 12:23 PM

The 67 Impala was the only good 4 door (only the Hardtop though)

ReallyAGXP 08-14-2007 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by EagleKammback
The 67 Impala was the only good 4 door (only the Hardtop though)

Your in a forum Dedicated to a 4 Door car them words could be considered fighting words!!!

SSE Motorhead 08-14-2007 12:49 PM

The new Camaro needs a Z/28 package. Juice up that little 5.3L (327) (leave the big block for the SS model) and they'll have a sporty craft that will rev good and have a respectable amount of torque to get it off the line. A locking differential with traction control in your foot, mated to a close-ratio 6 speed transmission. And state of the art suspension. Cowl induction hood and rally stripes. 8)
This is realistic and affordable. There's lots of cool stuff that could be done that would easily price this car out of its intended market. It's not meant to be a competitor to the Corvette either. The Vette is a sports car, the Camaro is a pony car, the Bonneville is a 4-door grampa car.

Just call me grampa. :twisted:

sqela 08-14-2007 03:26 PM

All she needs is a radar detector, big rearview mirror and and passanger handle built welded to the a frame :twisted:

BonneMeMN 08-15-2007 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by EagleKammback
That's why you add brakes at the driveshaft too

There's a reason why this is not done on any road real "road worthy" car..

I just hope it's priced right, otherwise if it's more than the mustang, it'll have the same sales problems again.

EagleKammback 08-16-2007 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by SSE Motorhead
The new Camaro needs a Z/28 package. Juice up that little 5.3L (327) (leave the big block for the SS model) and they'll have a sporty craft that will rev good and have a respectable amount of torque to get it off the line. A locking differential with traction control in your foot, mated to a close-ratio 6 speed transmission. And state of the art suspension. Cowl induction hood and rally stripes. 8)
This is realistic and affordable. There's lots of cool stuff that could be done that would easily price this car out of its intended market. It's not meant to be a competitor to the Corvette either. The Vette is a sports car, the Camaro is a pony car, the Bonneville is a 4-door grampa car.

Just call me grampa. :twisted:

Actually the 5.3 is 325, not 327 unfortunately. Why do you want traction control? That takes the fun out of driving, I sayu the less computers, the better the car

lash 08-16-2007 02:46 PM


What do you want to see in the new Camaro?
Me.

:D

EDIT: OK, so I went back and actually read the thread and saw that this was already said...so sue me already... :D

But to continue on topic, the fact that the market is Pony Car enthusiasts (meaning, average Joe with beer pocketbook), GM must keep the base models simple and affordable. This will always mean that a base model will be a 6 cyl.

Likely also, is that the initial offerings will be somewhat limited at first, as car companies need to have something to offer as following year upgrades and enticements. I expect that Z28 and other hot models will be introduced incrementally in later model years. This is similar to most every other car offering out there, including the Mustang.

EagleKammback 08-16-2007 03:04 PM

A Yenko or COPO Option?

MyLittleBlackBird 08-16-2007 03:43 PM

I could see myself in the new Camaro... I don't think I'll be on the options list though.

*edit* damnit! I was beaten to it also!

SSE Motorhead 08-16-2007 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by EagleKammback
...Actually the 5.3 is 325, not 327...

Close enough. 2 cubic inches is not going to make much difference. More bottom end than the 302, quicker to rev than the 350.


Originally Posted by EagleKammback
...Why do you want traction control?

Reread the post...traction control in your foot...

EagleKammback 08-16-2007 04:53 PM

oh yeah, I just got back from vacation and my mind isn't working completely yet (due to massive sunburn)

SSE Motorhead 08-16-2007 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by EagleKammback
oh yeah, I just got back from vacation and my mind isn't working completely yet (due to massive sunburn)

You shouldn't have left it out in the sun. :lol: :lol:

EagleKammback 08-16-2007 06:18 PM

I'll keep that in mind next time

Greyhare 08-16-2007 06:38 PM

LS7
6spd manual
6spd sequential shift manual (option)
Real brakes. 356x32mm (14") floating rotor, fixed caliper.
Smalest diameter, lightest wheel that fits over the brakes. (18" should work)
Properly designed suspension. (It's a sports car not a family SUV)

lash 08-16-2007 09:57 PM

You've got that right, Greyhare! ;)

Ryno02 08-16-2007 11:41 PM

id like to see a firebird version. not a damn gto or g8, but a FIREBIRD that has some features that the '68 did, just like they did to the camaro. as far as drivetrain goes, 6 speed manual(i wouldnt buy an auto, had too much fun in my firebird M.E. t-56), and id be happy with an LS2/3/7 whatever. even if they dont make a pontiac version, im still gonna try my damndest to get one( if i dont have a project car by then)

BonneMeMN 08-17-2007 12:04 AM

IIRC it'll have IRS since it's built along the same platform as the Holden commodores, G8, etc..


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