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Old 02-24-2006, 02:58 AM   #11
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Never seen this fuel in my area? Heard about it. Seems impratical if not sold nationwide. Link wouldnt load with accelerator on and page timed out without.... snowing hard here and my dialup sucks in wet weather. I assume the car runs on gas as well? Guess it will be a big shot in the arm for the cornbelt states eh gm4life? I gotta get out of this hollow a little more or at least watch the news I quess.

At $1.27 a gallon what proff is this ethanol?
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These E85 fuel cars can run on normal gasoline like our Bonnes but they can also run on E85 fuel. I don't have any E85 pumps around me that I know of but that stuff is much much cheaper. I think the vast majority of the stations that carry it are closer to areas with lots of farming.
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These E85 fuel cars can run on normal gasoline like our Bonnes but they can also run on E85 fuel. I don't have any E85 pumps around me that I know of but that stuff is much much cheaper. I think the vast majority of the stations that carry it are closer to areas with lots of farming.
true that...

i know of at least 3 ethanol plants around here

E85 is at a LOT of pumps, and almost all pumps will have an option for 10% ethanol added
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I was talking to someone about this and while it is better on the environment than gas, it costs a lot more to produce and produces more pollution to create it over gas refinement than the pollution savings you get from using it.

If it were me, I'd go Biodiesil anyday. Nothing like driving on frenchfries
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I dunno about biodiesel, I'd get fatter if I had to smell french fries all day. I get a munchie attack every time I smell french fries. Is the e=fuel pure ethanol.....as in just add orange juice and woo haa
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Well I like that idea,but in west michigan my near pump that sells e85 is lansing which is about hor and half away. They need to put more pumps in with it. My other thought is that gm need to make hybred that can also use e85 ,then not only do cheap gasoline price you get better fuel milage. My brother 02 stratus can use e85 used it once couldn't tell difference between that and regular fuel. IT did get lower fuel milage for the record but only 1-2 mpg less. With just one load it hard tell if it was the fuel or maybe he made more acclerator faster, are drive more city.
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Biodiesel is very impractical in the winter. It has a tendency to freeze solid.
From what I gather most states have 10% mixed ethanol during the winter months. Here in MN there is always 10% ethanol added in.
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There'* only a handful of E85 stations that i know of in the twin cities, and only one in bloomington that'* anywhere near my house. But it'* consistently 20-30 cents BELOW what 87 octane costs. Isn't E85 actually a higher octane? like 95 or something? I thought i read that somewhere...
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E85 is WAY cheaper than regualr gas....at least it was this summer when i was in IL....It was a good 30-35 cents less
An important aspect to consider about the price of E85 and 10% Ethanol blends is that they are cheaper because they are subsidized by the government. If the government allowed the Ethanol industry to produce and sell their product without subsidy, it would be much more expensive than it is now. I'm pretty sure this is because there aren't enough Ethanol plants to efficiently refine the mass quantities that are needed, and so the production price is high for 'small batch' Ethanol production. However, if this E85 campaign gets big, we should see capacity ramp up to meet demand and drive the price down. We just don't have the infrastructure to convert all cars to E85..... yet.
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Old 02-24-2006, 09:02 PM   #20
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Ben your right the gov. does help out a bit. I really think it is the next big thing!
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